Man, imagine being in a financial situation where you could afford to turn down a job just because of if the OS you'd be using
Imagine applying for a job as a backend engineer and not knowing, based on the job posting/qualifications needed that they were a Windows shop.
Or just imagine generating this fake Gmail in Gemini or ChatGPT and posting it to farm the rage.
I applied to a (among other techs) nodejs position for a finance company. I asked 5 times in all interviews if it's ok to run linux, just to make sure.
they said yes, and after signing the contract, I was send the instructions via email and company laptop was shipping. In the instructions, I was supposed to work through some remote desktop on a windows machine. fuck me
I instantly resigned, one day before starting.I refused the parcel so it went back to the mothership without me even touching the box
I don't have the luxury of turning down jobs for windows, but I do draw the line at using it on my own systems. They want me to use it, they have to provide the hardware.
God you must make a ton of money
Probably yeah. Ive done the same and said no to jobs where I couldnt use Linux. I didnt even want mac at that time, because 70% of the fun of the job was using Linux and native tools there.
Its not really strange. We are using our computers to do our job and we think its fun, so being forced to use a different platform ruins a lot of the fun.
I hate windows as much as the next lemmy user, but turning down a well paying job because I don't want to use the OS 99+% of businesses use, means you must be at a level of stability I cannot even fathom.
And not you, but OP was kind of a dick calling IT lazy. As someone go works in IT myself, a lot of departments these days are woefully understaffed. We're not going to support any extra software, causing us to work more overtime hours, because one douche is throwing a hissyfit
Yeah the agreement for me was always that i wont need any support from the company for my Linux, and I never did.
If you know Linux, it will just work. I had to use the web version of office and teams sometimes, but that worked ok during meetings.
I need to start applying to jobs while I'm still comfortable just for the thrill of turning them down.
Google products are acceptible though? 🤨
That's the recipient using gmail, I think. It shows the inbox tag.
While I prefer Linux and use it wherever I can, I use about every major OS on a regular basis. I have a machine that dual boots Windows due to some expensive specialized software I own that doesn’t work on Linux yet, I have an iPhone because Linux phones aren’t good enough to be a daily driver and Graphene doesn’t work with certain apps I need, I have an Android tablet / Android TVs because they have a usable UX while allowing sideloading of OSS apps that respect my privacy, and I use macOS on my work machine because company IT doesn’t support Linux. Yes, I’d prefer to run Linux on every device, but there are practical reasons for using other OSes, and it’s not like a competent techie can’t learn to use whatever. I assume Linux will continue to gain market share across form factors, but we are not there yet. I’ve actually never worked anywhere where Linux was supported, and while I’ll refuse to work somewhere with unethical business practices, I probably won’t choose to be unemployed to avoid using Windows. Google, for example, does support Linux devices for employees, but I’d rather use a Windows laptop somewhere else than actively build tools for surveillance capitalism.
TL;DR - Pick your battles.
I've worked professionally on Windows and Mac; using Visual Basic, C#, Java, Objective-C and Qt Creator (which is C++ and Javascript); for web apps, desktop applications, and mobile apps (iOS, Blackberry and Android). I have my personal preferences but they're all viable platforms/languages/frameworks/devices and anything that needs doing can be done on them one way or another. The idea that one of these is vastly and objectively superior to all others is just pseudo-religious nonsense.
Fucking based.
99% companies have been using Windows for the past 30 years. I would gladly accept any job using Windows, even more if they paid well. I hate Windows way more than everyone else, but being unemployed is worse nowadays.
You assume they don't already have a job and we're just looking for other opportunities. Not everyone is unemployed before they apply for other jobs. If anything that is a good time to look as it gives you stronger position to negotiate from.
Senior backend engineering definitely doesn’t see 99% windows adoption rate.
Does anyone actually believe this post??? Because it reads like upvote farming.
Its posted in a humor sub soooo no
They say while using gmail.
Gmail is functional at what it sets out to do, which is send and receive email.
The sender is not expressing privacy concerns, they’re expressing functionality / utility concerns.
Honestly, yeah, I'd do the same. After several past jobs required Linux, even downgrading to a Mac feels pretty bad. Can't imagine Macroslop Wangblows.
Why would you not be very clear about this right at the start of the interview process so you're not wasting everybody's (including your own) time? If this is one of your absolute show-stoppers, then say so up front and we can either work with IT to get you what you want, or decline and move on to the next candidate.
You have a lot more negotiating power once they give you an offer because of the sunk cost.
Are you talking to the employer or the applicant, because it works both ways?
Lmao mac elitists
I think this person actually wants to run linux, but they are using Mac as a test case.
They mentioned "install an alternative operating system" - which on hardware sold for Windows very much implies Linux.
But if Linux is a no, and even macos is a no - which is from a "big proper company" with support agreements and everything - then the company is obviously a lost cause who are set on windows for life for all time.
Guy just sounds entitled and precious they wouldn't stump for a Macbook.
Workers should be entitled, and demand better conditions when we have the leverage
While I agree with the sentiment…there are workers who are fighting for things like safe working conditions, access to clean water, above poverty wages, etc. ..and then there’s Billy Bob here drafting (and subsequently screenshotting and posting for all to see) a temper tantrum because his potential employer uses an operating system he doesn’t like. They’re welcome to turn down an offer for whatever reason (assuming this is even real in the first place), but I’m sorry, this is entitled as fuck.
Why not turn down an offer because a company is supporting the military industrial complex? Or has ties with black market business? Where are those screenshots? Those would be much more apt reasons for turning down an offer, rather than this shit 😂.
I think that's a tad excessive. Sure, Windows sucks, but it's not my machine so I don't give a shit. Now, if they expected me to bring my own machine and also insist that it's Windows, I'll get pissed off and refuse the offer. Their machine though? They can demand whatever they want, so long as I can actually do my job.
9/10 times it's not Windows I'm fighting against when I'm unable to do my job, it's the IT department not giving me admin rights over the right folders so I can't even install Docker without spending 3 days with them to get the right permissions.
While it takes about 8-16 hours of concerted effort, there are ways to castrate Windows into a mild approximation of what it was before.
The big question mark is Windows 12… and whether AI and spyware/malware features such as Recall will be baked into core functionality such that it will be impossible to remove or reliably deactivate.
I’m still with Windows for now, owing to requirements that have no non-Windows alternative (which include supporting and actually opening client data files for the desktop version of Quicken, for example), but I do foresee a time when I would reliably extract my last foot out of the Windows ecosystem.
Thankfully, their server products still appear to be enshittification-free. For now.
Dude how many qualifications do you have that you can turn down a job offer in this economy over such a rather minor inconvenience?!
Dude, that's like hiring a truck driver and telling him his lorry will be pulled by 4 horses.
Just wondering... Is there anyone on Earth using Windows Server?
At school we were tought how to work with it (my teacher was so outdated, he barely knew what Linux was) but I can't find any good reason to use it instead of Linux
Every single business running Windows computers (which is about all of them) will have an Active Directory running on Windows.
Every company I worked for only ever had a handful of Linux servers and the majority of Windows servers.
Microsoft revenue generated $26.7 billion in one quarter from its Licensing, and even though a lot of it was through cloud, a lot of it also came through self hosted Windows servers.
You live in a bubble if you think nobody is using Windows server.
Is this a real question? It's very obvious you don't work in IT.
At my previous job, all developers were given desktops running windows server. It was horrible but I spent 95% of my time in a Linux vm so I got by while I was there.
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