The curse of vaccines is that they're victims of their own success. They are so successful in fact that people forget why we need them in the first place. That's why we unfortunately need a control group.
Thankfully some people volunteer for that role ...
I feel like the antivaxxers are more concentrated in the developed north because of privileges; from having better access to healthcare, better economy, and less prevalence of deadlier diseases because of colder climate. So they get treatment more easily if they need one, and don't see nasty diseases. Meanwhile, the global south tend to believe more in vaccinations because diseases in warmer climate are more common and deadlier.
yeah there's definitely a correlation between temperature and diseases/infection.
it's well known for example that the Thai and Spanish people all eat very spicy food because it disinfects the body from the inside out. Which reduces diseases. That only works for bacteria though, not viruses.
The phrase "there is no glory in prevention" is well known in related fields
I mean, you say that. But we have a quarterly all-hands office meeting at my company. Every meeting kicks off with "This is how many accidents we had this quarter. We are aiming for ZERO accidents. Zero Is Achievable." And in the quarters we've had zero accidents, the upper management makes a big deal out of it.
There have been a number of campaigns to eliminate certain viruses from the human population - smallpox being the most famous. And there was quite a bit of glory doled out to celebrate the regional elimination of these contagions.
It's possible to make prevention a celebrated endeavor. But you do have to prioritize it. And you can't run away and blow it off when you fail. I think the real "no glory" issue is in bungled preventative campaigns. Far easier to insist vaccinations don't work than to acknowledge our pre-Trump efforts at vaccinating the population have been half-assed and profit-motivated.
Poor things, give them some homeopathic placebo at least
I can’t describe how many patients I see in an average week who are taking homeopathic stuff for their dental diseases and ask me hopefully if it’s working. No, magic toxin water has not cured your gingivitis or rebuilt your cavitated tooth.
I'm sad that my mom believed in homeopathy. She still went to doctors thankfully and got her cancer treated, but she wasted so much money on snake oil
I know a couple of anti-vax people who won’t take or get any vaccine, but they will happily buy unregulated dick pills from china.
Wait you know more than one anti-vaxxer and they all/both order dick pills, what are the odds.
Also, they don’t just sell them in the pharmacy like in the UK?
AFAIK, Cialis and Viagra (and their generics) are prescription only. So you can't just have a discussion with the pharmacist to get those.
There's often pills you can buy that contain those or similar compounds. Literally gas station boner pills. At least in my country the government is pretty good at finding/seizing them and releasing notices about it (if you look).
Edit: Just to make sure, do not buy these. They're not regulated and can cause serious side effects. Go to your doctor if you need something like this.
Some of those illegal gas station pills cause priapism (erection for a dangerously long period of time), which could permanently destroy your ability to get an erection in the future if not treated.
Does anybody else remember the good old days before the pandemic when anti-vaxers where a left wing phenomenon? It was mostly popular among the all natural hippies who were convinced that crystals and meditation could cure diseases and that all modern medicine was a scam by the all powerful and all elusive "big pharma"... It's sad that anti-vaxers went from being clowns that everybody made fun to being a serious problem because a big chunk of society decided to go brain dead and now old diseases are making a comeback.
In Australia the wackos and feral teamed up with the conservative nut jobs in our rural hippie town of Nimbin.
All because of the vaccine.
Fucking morons
Sadly, the stupid tend to breed prolifically, and anti-vax idiots often have a gaggle of spawn, and are keen to whelp more litters as the others die from perfectly preventable diseases
I think about that often. The people who have the most kids are generally the ones who can’t afford them and have a harder time providing extra-curricular activities or those with more extreme religious beliefs who may opt out of scientific education. If your average Mormon has 3-4 kids and your average astrophysicist has 1-2, the population trend must eventually follow.
Well the "stupid will outbreed the smart" has, for all intents and purposes, been debunked by science so you can be fearless!
We can go back to kill bugs now, for Democracy!
Ow, my balls
Half the anti-vaxxers I knew had concerns what was in the shot but did coke all weekend.
I used to party hard and I’ve got fucked up with people going on about Covid vaccine as we are actively doing lines off a fucking table. When id point it out they’d say that’s different.
Idiots.
They're right, we know exactly the kind of damage snorting powdered drugs has on your nose and heart. They were taking a calculated risk, you were just rolling the dice with your health. Owned again, liberal.
(I AM JOKING)
We should thank the antivaxxers. There was a suspicion for years that vaccines over age 60 reduce the incidence of neurodegenerative diseases but due to high uptake, a control group was not obvious, nor ethical to impose.
Now, the control group has appeared and vaccines, especially Shingrex, lower Alzheimer incidence by 20-30%.
In fact, vaccines work far better than the last two FDA approved antibody therapies for dementia costing $26000 a year.
This was a very promising route to prevent neurodegenerative diseases but Trump ironically cut all this research in 2025. So he'll die of literal brain rot, because Tony Fauci make him feel inferior.
Well, their kids are. They, no doubt, were vaccinated by their parents.
Jesus Christ, the Nurglites have come out of the woodwork in this thread.
I feel sorry for people who sign up for vaccine trials and get the placebo.
and are willing participation in thought control experiments by right wing groups.
I honestly am starting to think the anti-vaxx crowd has been astroturfed by pharmaceutical corporations in order to convince the general public that anyone who questions Big Pharma is some loomy who thinks vaccines cause autism wants to drink raw milk.
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