Most people on here see through his bs. Even in that thread it was that one comment chain where a lot of the “handing it to him” occurred.

The real concern of Tucker Carlson is his reach with “normies.” I’ve seen people from my family liking some of his videos mentioning the US was going to invade Venezuela weeks before it happened and him disputing Venezuela as a drug haven. Mind you we’re in a country where our diaspora makes a large chunk of the “illegals” Tucker hates.

Tucker is like Ron Paul in the 2000’s. Someone with a mainstream spotlight who outflanks the Dems on imperialism and wins over potential leftists to their weird right-wing politics.

Same thing with that Chinese professor.

Tucker is not a strong anti-imperialist, he only says such things because he knows that it will make him popular. Tucker Carlson's dad, Dick Carlson, was the president of Voice of America from 1986 to 1991, which is US-government-owned propaganda news station ie CIA. Tucker Carlson is a fed or tied to feds.

When Kanye West came out as a Nazi, he went on Tucker Carlson's Fox News show to make the announcement. Tucker Carlson selectively edited the interview to launder Kanye's image, so that it would appear that Kanye was a more reasonable populist right wing figure. Clips of the interview were leaked by editors. Kanye claimed that Tucker censored him and then he went on Alex Jones to say even more antisemitic things. This interaction demonstrates that Tucker was comfortable with promoting a figure who claimed to be a Nazi.

The role of Tucker Carlson is to say things that are popular to promote far-right figures and far-right ideas.

Tucker Carlson's Fox News Show focused on 'the great replacement' conspiracy theory. Tucker used the term 'legacy americans' to describe white people and regularly implied that a shadowy group was using mass migration to eliminate 'legacy americans' ie white people. Before Tucker got fired from Fox News, Tucker's show was the most watched news program in the US, averaging 5 million nightly views.

The danger of Tucker Carlson is not that he's actually anti-imperialist. The danger is that he's popular and his popularity will allow him to promote his white supremacy narratives.

Only a fool would honestly believe that Tucker is actually an anti-imperialist. Just go watch one episode of his twitter show. Every episode he says things like "trans people are trying to stop you from having free healthcare". He is absurd.

Anything that divides the empire against itself is good. Long-term new problems may arise but our most pressing problem is the empire.

"Waaah he's a fascist, he hurts my feelings". Yeah no shit he's not a great guy. Doesn't matter.

I don't like how Iran treats women and how it murdered communists but I still understand the role it has to play.

Iran's role is more significant and important than Tucker Carlson. They're not on the same level. But where do you draw the line? Does someone have to militarily attack the US (and only I will remind you in response to being attacked first. Iran are not some bastion of fanatical anti-imperialists who struck first, they reply only when attacked first and are more than willing to negotiate with the vile US empire when it actually seems like it might do so in good faith)? Iran was forced into the position it's in. It wanted rapprochement with the west and integration but the west spurned it. Tucker Carlson was perhaps forced into the position he's in. He lost his Fox News show and the market for zionist puppets and pro-war maniacs is quite bad for new sellers because of all the big media apparatus already being on that. If he wanted to do anything his range of choices was pretty constrained.

I'm not going to cheer for Tucker unlike Iran but I'm not going to do like the idealist liberals here and cheer for say the FBI or CIA harassing him because they don't like what he's saying because mentally you people despite claiming to be leftists are still Democrats at heart happy to score an "own" against that mean reactionary personality instead of dispassionately analyzing what it does.

It shouldn't matter for us any more than it matters that Russia or Iran were forced into doing good things. So long as we don't delude ourselves (I haven't seen that) that he's a true friend through and through (same with Iran and Russia) and understand what is going on we can point out what he's doing is taking the correct position.

You people act as if the absolutely irrelevant online left praising Tucker with reservations will result in him skyrocketing to popularity and personally becoming fascist leader of America thanks to our help in bamboozling the totally innocent left-leaning American public. Ridiculous. Absurd. 1) He doesn't need us. 2) America is already reactionary and violent as shit. Please see Trump. Whether it's Tucker or someone else doesn't matter. The empire is a machine that will continue regardless of figurehead at the helm.

Calm down and analyze what it does. Have no illusions about who our true friends are but have no illusions that change and the new world will be brought about in no small part thanks to people we rightfully consider enemies. Save your breath, there are plenty of liberals, chuds, and zionists seething at Tucker we need spend no time trying to "take him down". Continue pushing our positions and lines, our explanations, our values. But please save your freaking out at Tucker being a bad guy the same way you save your freaking out at Russia whenever it's mentioned because they oppress LGBTQ people. There are times it is appropriate to bring up and times it is inappropriate to do so and knowing the difference is the difference between being a liberal and a member of the left.

I don't think anyone would should "support" Tucker or "hand it to him" beyond recognizing that he's is outflanking the Dems on Israel. His "anti-imperialism" is nothing more than "don't sign a murder suicide pact with Israel". Basically the Obama "no dumb wars" line. No dumb imperialism.

Judging him on how he's failed to convince his "chudbuds" is pretty silly though. I assume he has convinced his listeners. Those just aren't the ones that matter.

You're lowkirkenuinely being pathetic now. I will not reply further to this discussion because at this point in time I no longer value your opinion.

You and that other commenter have tried to twist my words into something that I never said. I never said "you have to hand it to him" or any of what you are trying to make it seem I said.

I made a statement, which was a criticism of, what the broader public considers, "the left", and how tucker carlson is more of an anti-imperialist than many of these "progressive" figures in the media because he has been against american military action in Venezuela, Iran, and Palestine, all without promoting liberal zionist ideologies.

He has a more anti-imperialist stance than:

• Bernie Sanders ("netanyahu government")
• Mamdani (calling maduro a dictator)
• AOC ("they're defensive weapons!" ☝️🤓)
• Mehdi Hassan (peddled lies about the 40k protestors being massacred in Iran which manufactured consent for the US/"israel" bombing and assassination of the Ayatollah)

What did I say that was incorrect? I never once said "you have to hand it to him" I never once stated "critical support to him". YOU made these up in your head to be upset at someone.

This conversation is not worth having, you are upset at something that doesn't exist. I wish you well.

This post sucks, leave your slapfight in the thread it originated in

”The Genocidal Zionist State represent the Jewish People” (good)

“The Genocidal Zionist State represents the Jewish People” (Bad)

Tucker is a piece of shit who happens to be saying non-shitty things right now. Under no circumstances do we have to hand it to him, or like him, or support him. He was the willing lapdog of republicans for years and the only reason he seems to no longer be their darling is, I don't know, right wing vibes not being aligned with each other?

That said, he is critical of the people in power right now, which can serve as a starting point for getting people that like him thinking outside the box, possibly setting them on a better course if you keep chipping away at that disconnect. That is his one and only use in my opinion.

Tucker Carlson, Candace Owens, Joe Kent Michael Flynn, Jackson Hinkle, etc, these people are all obviously taking money from other countries outside the USA to talk nonsense. It's not organic, they often contradict previously held beliefs or give out information that they themselves know is false to deliberately mislead. Michael Flynn does this a lot. A man of his military experience knows that what he's saying is false. Like when he said the NEW START treaty banned hardened aircraft shelters for nuclear capable strategic bombers (it didn't, and he knew that, but he said it anyways to feed a narrative, because he's probably getting paid to do so). Kent went on a tour of the podcast bro scene right after resigning, the opposite of organic. Who's funding them is the bigger question.

If people want to do a red brown alliance with these hacks whom are only loyal to their bank account, that's highly questionable. They're not outflanking anyone, they're just getting paid to say stupid things they themselves know are false, and put out low effort slop. Even more questionable is the rumblings I've heard of some kind of red-brown-green alliance? Yeah that's not going to work and should not be supported.

i think tucker is more likely to advocate regime change in entity than aocia, which tells you something non?

He is not strong anything, just amerikkkan leftists with a voice are complete dogshit in their radicalness.

jon stewart is interviewing jack murder them all sullivan as a comparable figure on the centrist side.

$rtx bernie has founded a new country named netanyahu in the middle east.

obamdani is too busy building pretty jails to have opinions, apparently.

tucker is outflanking them in rhetoric, if by an inch. not that he is better than

of course he soft sells empire, he is a company man. he is a chud chotiner, he lands interviews with economist editors or whoever the fuck, it's different sphere of media than leftism as such.

i would like a leftist with profile to eviscerate matt duss, but alas we have hasan vote-them-all-in. i also would like a leftist with a voice to do a read out of "partisan tactics in ww2: historic perspective" with a straight face, but no one will touch anything demonitazeable by the "platforms"

Besides the fully ready to drink the flavor aid die hard Maga guys (it's not as many on the right as you think) most of who is supporting this war is a bunch of Israeli and US literal bots on Twitter

The only reason Tucker is able to do what he does right now is because he has access to all these establishment ghouls and they seem to not be expecting the hostile interviews. If you put Sam Seder in front of Ted Cruz, he'd be able to make him look like a clown as well.

Who is saying this? Is this actually a thing?

Edit: did not see the link lmao

Damn that's my post

It’s true that Tucker is not better than American leftists on Israel. All five of us. It’s also that despite being a fascist Tucker is better than the vast majority of the American “left” on israel, and that bar is in hell.

Being able to compartmentalize the positions people have on things (instead of treating them with a halo effect), and analyze whether or not something is well-integrated with a holistic liberatory philosophy, is a skill that we all need.

Fuck Tucker. I know a guy that loves Tucker and loves Trump. I saw him recently, and while Tucker didn't come up by name, he did say that he's not happy with Trump right now "because of the wars".

Critical support to Tucker Carlson 🫡