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[-] NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de 209 points 1 month ago

Meanwhile, over at Codeberg: https://status.codeberg.org/

They achieve all of this using 100% open-source infrastructure. If I remember correctly, it's all running on Codeberg-owned hardware as well, not some rented servers.

https://codeberg.org/about

[-] sznowicki@lemmy.world 163 points 1 month ago

They were down for like entire day once because they moved that server to a new location by train. In a backpack.

[-] MNByChoice@midwest.social 71 points 1 month ago

I am disappointed. A few servers have been moved via train and stayed online. Codeberg should do better.

[-] toynbee@piefed.social 68 points 1 month ago

A company at which I once worked built a functioning server into the frame of a motorcycle. It was after I left, so I'm not sure of the details, including whether it had to be plugged in; but regardless, they called it "the world's fastest server!" and I think that's pretty funny.

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[-] aarmea@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

If that was their only downtime that year, that would have resulted in 99.7% uptime.

[-] NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de 17 points 1 month ago

Lol, awesome.

Annoyingly I noticed that the status page only shows the past 22 minutes to 1 hour for the primary services. I have no idea why, and there doesn't seem to be a way to look further back. But the badge says 99.45% uptime over the last 14 days, so that's probably right.

[-] Iusedtobeanalien@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago

Migrations should always incur downtime

"Hey we're migrating, take a break for a week"

[-] nialv7@lemmy.world 28 points 1 month ago

To be fair the number of users they serve is probably orders of magnitudes lower.

To be fair MS makes orders of magnitude more money and has the benefit of operations at scale. Whereas codeberg's operational budget for 2025 was 100k euro and they still need to deal with DDoS and bot scraping. They also were running off a single server up until sept'25 when they had two donated hardware services which are now hooked up to make a 3 node ceph cluster.

[-] bort@sopuli.xyz 7 points 1 month ago

more users means, they should do much better than the ones with less users (assuming each user is worth the same/requires same infra).

at the worst case, a bigger org could just copy paste a smaller orgs system a couple times to get the exact same uptime, with same budget per user*. The benefit of bigger orgs is, that they can consolidate these separate system a big system that is more stable AND costs less. If this wasn't true, we wouldn't have big orgs in the first place**.

* yes, it is NOT the same budget for the users. You can't JUST copy paste the system, you'd also need to think how you split it up. I know there are a million little things to nitpick here, but this can all be solved somewhat easily, and they wont change the overall argument.

** regulatory capture, lobbying, corruption and creating a monopoly could also be consider aspects of "consolidating into a bigger system". This doesn't mean why MS shouldn't be able to be better, it just explains why they aren't better.

[-] astropenguin5@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago

Tbf that only shows the past 14 days instead of past 30, but still

[-] Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

They also have an history of incidents further down and as you can see they are very short, heck many aren't even incidents since they were on purpose for mantaince and features deployment

[-] queerlilhayseed@piefed.blahaj.zone 88 points 1 month ago

We're watching the old internet fall apart.

[-] queerlilhayseed@piefed.blahaj.zone 44 points 1 month ago

It never occurred to me before now but from here on out, there will probably always be some old part of the internet, crumbling and sparse, moldering and broken, populated by far fewer denizens than it was designed for.

I wonder if that'll just be the ever-fading "old folks" internet.

[-] ascend@lemmy.radio 16 points 1 month ago
[-] queerlilhayseed@piefed.blahaj.zone 11 points 1 month ago

Oh sure, there will always be museums and monuments with little slices of the internet that was, but for the most part, the urge to repurpose old resources to new endeavors means that some parts of the internet will always fade away. I don't know if we'll ever start preserving it perfectly but we certainly aren't there yet.

[-] plateee@piefed.social 39 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

We are Flowers for Algernoning our technology.

If I use my phone (not android Auto), I can no longer say, "Navigate to ". It flat out does not work.

Navigate to Local Bakery Xyz.

I'm sorry I can't do that.

(It tries to open the non-existent app for the local bakery).

If I'm in the car that has android auto, it refuses to let me type while in drive (fair enough) and it recognizes the "Navigate to..." Instructions, but if I click on the Maps nav bar for voice and say my destination (it literally says, no text while driving speak your destination)... It tries to open the app.

This shit used to work, it's getting actively dumber.

This morning I got fed up and asked,

"Can I use you to navigate somewhere?"

Sure! Where would you like to go?

"Dutch Bros"

(Opens the Dutch Bros app)

[-] Dogiedog64@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

I once tried to ask my phone to set an alarm. It said it did.

I checked the app. No alarm set.

I tried again, but with a timer. It said it was set.

Again, nothing.

I gave up on digital assistants after that. They took them out back and shot them, and what we see now is their rotted corpse puppeted by Shareholder Value™️ gone wrong. This was 2022.

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[-] criss_cross@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago

It’s like all companies forgot that reliability is a core feature…

"Users will completely understand the increased outages if we just eliminate the point-and-click UI that we've spent the last 30+ years getting them used to and instead give them a chat bot that they have to repeatedly type detailed instructions to for marginal results at best."

-- Vibe CEO's Everywhere

[-] maplesaga@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

We're watching Microsoft ruin another company. Its like if EA or IBM buys something, its enshittified and rent seeking occurs for shareholders.

Once this Windows monopoly has passed due to the abysmal quality it will hopefully be over, and hopefully AI helps remove barriers to file portability to hasten their demise.

[-] queerlilhayseed@piefed.blahaj.zone 10 points 1 month ago

I think that's how a lot of the internet is dying right now because buying an IP then wringing every drop of value out of its dying corpse before dropping it is a good way to make money right now. This is very much a thing that happens outside of the internet too, and happened long before the internet existed. I think one of the cool things about the internet is how quickly word can spread about this kind of compromised company / product / whatever thing, though I think we need to get better at it. I'm not exactly sure how to accomplish that, it seems like an overwhelming problem, but I think about it a lot.

[-] osanna@lemmy.vg 7 points 1 month ago

I REALLY hope MS crashes and burns. They're a shitstain company, and the shit Gates did as CEO was atrocious.

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[-] obvs@lemmy.world 48 points 1 month ago

I’m colorblind, but I’m curious to know what is being represented here.

[-] queerlilhayseed@piefed.blahaj.zone 80 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Server / service downtime. For a well managed company, you would expect these to be almost uniformly green, meaning that all servers are responding correctly almost all of the time. This graph has a lot of yellow and red, indicating severe instability in their services.

Not being able to keep servers running is something that typically happens to smaller companies that grow too fast for them to manage. Established companies are (or, IMO, should be...) expected to have near perfect (>99.99%) uptime, and this is indicative of some expertise loss for the company broadly.

[-] marcos@lemmy.world 42 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

99.99%

TBF, no, established companies tend to have something between 99.9% and 99.99% of uptime. It only increases if the company is explicitly focused on it, at a large cost that usually needs to be paid by some customer.

But Github pretends to be one of those companies that focus on uptime. And it's also less than 99% right now. So yeah, the main point stands.

[-] queerlilhayseed@piefed.blahaj.zone 16 points 1 month ago

Yeah that's fair. It's part of the advertising in some sectors, but not all. A lot of the companies I've bought products from tend to advertise their uptime, and that's the type of company I think about when I think about uptime stats. However, a lot of the companies I've sold products to tended to not talk about it, and their uptime was often in the 2 nines to 3 nines, if not a lot worse. Somehow they still managed to keep going lol. Some of them anyway.

[-] Gork@sopuli.xyz 7 points 1 month ago

Thanks. I was thinking it was something biological, or some sort of light spectrum and was getting confused.

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[-] BasicallyHedgehog@feddit.uk 39 points 1 month ago

https://mrshu.github.io/github-statuses/ offers a slightly more honest version with aggregate numbers

[-] OrganicMustard@lemmy.world 47 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

90% uptime is abysmal

Any other company would be asked refunds from most clients

[-] criss_cross@lemmy.world 36 points 1 month ago

LMAO 1 nine of reliability.

[-] queerlilhayseed@piefed.blahaj.zone 14 points 1 month ago

At one place I worked we had a service that had been part of an acquired company that, as far as I could tell, had no one responsible for maintaining it, and it either zero or almost zero users, so it would go down for weeks at a time before somebody noticed and did something about it, usually because it needed a security patch. To this day I have no idea why it wasn't shut down but AFAIK it's still out there causing problems for whoever works there now.

We came up with a bunch of ways to describe its uptime: a service has one fortnine of reliability if it stays up for at least one continuous fortnight of the year, for instance. An absolute nine is nine days per year. Fractional nines were invented: a "quarter nine" was 25% of 90%uptime, or 22.5% total uptime.

[-] neuracnu@lemmy.blahaj.zone 39 points 1 month ago

Worst sorting algorithm ever.

[-] osanna@lemmy.vg 36 points 1 month ago

yeah, but it's microsoft. what's the longest you've gone without rebooting windows? a couple days? It stands to reason.

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[-] m0darn@lemmy.ca 35 points 1 month ago

Lol I legit thought

whoa a gel electrophoresis meme, I wonder if anyone recognises the sequence.

[-] desmosthenes@lemmy.world 25 points 1 month ago
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[-] ArseAssassin@sopuli.xyz 25 points 1 month ago

[vibe coding intensifies]

[-] InvalidName2@lemmy.zip 21 points 1 month ago

At least their status bars are, presumably, somewhat honest. It's pretty common for the status server being used to track various Lemmy instances to show all green even when the site has clearly been down several hours or even for days.

[-] ryannathans@aussie.zone 13 points 1 month ago

Probably pings the servers instead of checking web server works

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[-] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 18 points 1 month ago

Two 9’s, the pinnacle of reliability.

[-] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago

Five 9s with an 8 in front.

[-] onlinepersona@programming.dev 14 points 1 month ago

Github users right now: I don't care, I'll depend on it harder now!

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[-] belated_frog_pants@beehaw.org 12 points 1 month ago

"Lets buy shit, then fire everyone, and balk when it fails"

"Brilliant gambit sir"

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[-] UnfairUtan@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

Gitlab is pretty much the same

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