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[-] irate944@piefed.social 158 points 1 month ago

Me: There's no way that's true

Me, after web searching: Huh...

Context: They have a betting game called "Jogo do bicho" (Animal game, direct translation). Number 24 corresponds to deer, which is "veado" in portuguese - which is very similar to"viado", which is a slur for gay people persons.

I still doubt these candles are popular though.

[-] lvxferre@mander.xyz 106 points 1 month ago

Number 24 corresponds to deer, which is “veado” in portuguese - which is very similar to"viado", which is a slur for gay people persons.

The slur isn't just similar to the name of the critter — it is the name of the critter. You also see people using "gazela" (gazelle), "Bambi" (that Disney critter), "biba saltitante" (jumping… "biba", dunno what was supposed to be) as slurs for gay people, always under the "flamboyantly jumping" stereotype.

The reason it gets spelled with an "i" is that slurs and swearing often get misspelled in Portuguese. It's the same deal with boceta→buceta (pussy), caralho→caraio→carai (dick), foder→fuder→fudê (to fuck).

[-] irate944@piefed.social 35 points 1 month ago

Thanks for the explanation mate, that makes a lot more sense.

I'm portuguese and I always thought that veado was the word, just that "e" was "stressed" to sound like "i". I didn't know until today that there were actually two words

[-] lvxferre@mander.xyz 24 points 1 month ago

Some prescriptivists would argue "viado" isn't an actual word, and that even the slur should be spelled "veado". But just like "buceta" the misspelling has become way more popular than the original word.

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[-] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 42 points 1 month ago

They're popular enough for them to have been mass-produced, as opposed to, say, just writing the text on the cake with frosting.

[-] ascend@lemmy.radio 15 points 1 month ago

Kind of funny someone is so self conscious about looking "weak" or whatever has a birthday cake with candles

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[-] Hudell@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 month ago

That's not the reason though. 24 (vinte e quatro) is the gay number because it sounds like "vim de quatro" which means something like "I came on all 4s"

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[-] Gork@sopuli.xyz 97 points 1 month ago

Straight men have a 23+1 hr schedule every day. The extra hour is for secret gay time.

[-] HertzDentalBar@lemmy.blahaj.zone 74 points 1 month ago

Just going to say that looks way more gay than the number 24....

The more you try to avoid looking gay, the more gay you look. It's funny coming from a place as gay as Brazil.

[-] melfie@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 month ago

If you’re not gay, you must prove it by wearing a birthday tiara and listening to nothing but Judy Garland the whole day.

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[-] W3dd1e@lemmy.zip 34 points 1 month ago

Aside from the homophobia, they still get birthday cakes with candles that say their age when they are 24?

[-] nodiratime@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Only if you are gay.

/s in case someone misses the "homophobic-phobic" joke.

[-] brotundspiele@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 month ago

What else should they get? Birthday cakes with candles that say someone else's age? That wouldn't make any sense.

[-] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

are you kidding? gran was a party animal. if she got them why wouldn't I?

[-] potatoguy@mbin.potato-guy.space 34 points 1 month ago

Can confirm, I was gay that year.

[-] BandanaBug@piefed.social 30 points 1 month ago

Don't put the word anus after it then!

[-] The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

I was going to say, if Portuguese is like Spanish, it's "anus" without the tilde over the n, right?

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[-] Bazell@lemmy.zip 28 points 1 month ago

Can someone share some lore what is the connection between being gay and 24 in Brazil?

[-] Peruvian_Skies@sh.itjust.works 76 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

There's an illegal gambling game that has been extremely popular for decades called the animal game (jogo do bicho), in which each number represents an animal. 24 is the deer (veado). There's also a derogatory word for gay men, viado. The two words sound the same. So 24 is "the deer's number" but it sounds like "the fag's number".

Viado comes from desviado, which means someone who was driven off the proper path. It's just a matter of homophony (and homophobia).

[-] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 18 points 1 month ago

Wow it's like a homophobic lasagna. My heart goes out to you, gay Brazilians

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[-] _stranger_@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

homophonophobia?!

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[-] lvxferre@mander.xyz 27 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I shared it ITT, but basically:

There's that stereotype of gay people being flamboyant, and often hopping in excitement. That created a bunch of associations between hopping animals and gay people; e.g. "gazela" (gazelle), "bicha saltitante" (jumping/hopping beast), but specially "veado" (deer). Often spelled as "viado".

And there's a gambling lottery called "jogo do bicho" (critters' game, or animals' game). Illegal but extremely popular, to the point some knowledge of the game is part of the popular culture. It associates 25 animals with numbers, and #24 is "veado" / deer.

So: if 24 is veado, and veado is gay, then 24 is gay. Plop it into a macho culture, much like in the rest of Latin America, and you'll see people avoiding the number. Even for their birthdays.

Nowadays it's mostly a joke; but frankly I don't like it, it still treats gay people negatively, as if "gay" was "to be avoided". Roughly in the same level as "we did $thing but no homo!" in English, you know?

[-] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 23 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

If they are worried about seeming gay, why are they decorating their cake with 23+1 sparkly magic Spanish anuses? Seems preeeetty gay....

For those confused, in Portuguese (which they speak in Brazil), "ano" is year. But in Spanish "año" is year, and "ano" is anus. Also the blue seems speckled or glittery (unclear in the picture) and it says in the corner that it has a magic wick.

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[-] Evotech@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Having candles on your birthday cakes at all is pretty gay at that age

[-] brotundspiele@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

You don't have candles on your birthday cake just because you're grown up? What a sad life.

No homo, but I love to blow a big candle on my b-day.

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[-] ramenshaman@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago
[-] Blum0108@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago

Every birthday can be gay if you're gay enough

[-] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago

I am ashamed to be a member of a race that cannot have a floor 13 in a building in some countries, or a floor 4 (or floor with the number 4) in others just because of an outdated superstition.

But this somehow feels even dumber.

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[-] winkledinkle@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 month ago

So if you want to look extra gay, your candle says 24+/-x to get your age.

[-] socsa@piefed.social 15 points 1 month ago
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[-] thagoat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 month ago

Is it because of Jeff Gordon? Is that why 24 is gay?

[-] lvxferre@mander.xyz 33 points 1 month ago

No, it's because of an old betting game called "jogo do bicho" (critters' game):

Check #24. "Veado" (deer), often misspelled "viado", is used as a slur for gay people.

[-] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

That's quite the leap. Must be a very well-known game, with a board that never changes.

[-] Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone 11 points 1 month ago

It’s an incredibly culturally impactful game, including in slang: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jogo_do_bicho#Cultural_impact

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[-] WalleyeWarrior@midwest.social 9 points 1 month ago

I have Salvadorian in-laws that play a similar looking game called "loteria" which is similar to bingo and played at family gatherings. I assume most Central/South American countries have a similar game.

[-] lvxferre@mander.xyz 7 points 1 month ago

It's more like a lottery than a board game. But a really popular one, regardless of the prohibition against gambling, and the numbers / critters association never changes.

There are other popular expressions from the same game. Like "deu zebra" (the result was zebra) for something extremely unlikely to happen. (Note how there's no zebra in the sheet.)

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[-] The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

I looked it up, and allegedly it comes from a well known gambling game about animals, in which 24 is a deer, and "deer" sounds similar to a slur.

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[-] someguy3@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago

That's a lot of candle for something that's going to burn for less than a minute.

[-] hperrin@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 month ago

I don’t know if it’s the same in Portuguese, but in Spanish, “anos” (without the ñ) means anuses. So… 23 + 1 anuses. Sounds pretty gay.

[-] lvxferre@mander.xyz 8 points 1 month ago

Years = anos; anus = ânus. They're spelled different. Depending on dialect they may or may not sound the same.

[-] spicehoarder@lemmy.zip 13 points 1 month ago

23 + 1 assholes, totally not gay /s

[-] FreddiesLantern@leminal.space 11 points 1 month ago

“No homo but happy birthday! Anyway which one of you fellas is up for some hotdogs and whipped cream?”

[-] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 10 points 1 month ago

Funny, because straight men worry about whether they might be or might be perceived as being gay all the time.

[-] obbeel@lemmy.eco.br 9 points 1 month ago

Oh yes, my sexuality is protected 🫦

[-] expatriado@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

til "years" in Portuguese is spelled like "anus" in Spanish

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