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https://x.com/WolfeyGlick/status/2041773577720955041

also its currently like this

  • Fake Out cannot be selected after it’s used once
  • Many widely-used items (Choice Specs/Bands, Life Orb, AV) are just missing
  • Less than 200 Pokémon currently
  • NS2 version is still low-res/30 FPS
  • Stalwart Mega Skarmory

Also Mega Hawlucha can give its allies No Guard for 100% accurate 1-hit KO moves lmao

https://x.com/snacks_fruity2/status/2041880586457845879

My First Day in Pokemon Champions WolfeyVGC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGWRN-cB2DU

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[-] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 39 points 3 weeks ago

So the game for competitive Pokémon people is completely fucked up and not competitive?

So glad I dropped Nintendo

[-] thelastaxolotl@hexbear.net 30 points 3 weeks ago

apparently all future VGC tournaments will be done in champions so, its not looking good

[-] hello_hello@hexbear.net 18 points 3 weeks ago

Just streamlining the profit margins by making people buy a second game and then a subscription service to get the data arrays in the right place.

[-] thelastaxolotl@hexbear.net 13 points 3 weeks ago

Thankfully champions is free so its just the subscription

[-] hello_hello@hexbear.net 18 points 3 weeks ago
[-] KuroXppi@hexbear.net 13 points 3 weeks ago

From what I saw, you need to pay to increase your box size, and for faster refresh on recruitment (which is the only way to get new Pokemon other than bring them across from Pokemon Home)

[-] Damarcusart@hexbear.net 6 points 3 weeks ago

(which is the only way to get new Pokemon other than bring them across from Pokemon Home)

I thought they cancelled support for Home and you couldn't put pokemon onto it anymore?

[-] thelastaxolotl@hexbear.net 8 points 3 weeks ago

they did that for the pokemon home of the DS (pokemon bank), but there is now a new one for the switch (pokemon home)

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[-] JustSo@hexbear.net 9 points 3 weeks ago

Sounds under cooked for sure but won't they just keep patching and updating it?

[-] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 27 points 3 weeks ago

Kind of tired of every game coming out and needing an extra year of patches before you can play it without issue

[-] JustSo@hexbear.net 9 points 3 weeks ago

I honestly don't care if it reduces crunch and death marches. It probably doesn't, but I know the industry at "peak performance" is a torment nexus.

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[-] InexplicableLunchFiend@hexbear.net 11 points 3 weeks ago

they are completely incapable of just making pokemon showdown with a lobby, it's very strange

[-] hello_hello@hexbear.net 33 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

NS2 version is still low-res/30 FPS

It's too hard I'm baby innocence I don't know how to program 3D graphics at any resolution higher than a 3DS please buy my upcharged slop boohoo pika-cousin-suffering

[-] thelastaxolotl@hexbear.net 39 points 3 weeks ago

I was with a Gamefreak dev some time ago and we were looking at Pokemon Battle Revolution together years ago and I asked him what it would cost to Make it today. I will never forget his answer… 'We can’t, we don’t know how to do it

[-] sisatici@hexbear.net 13 points 3 weeks ago

I love how people are starting to slowly realize extremely high quality graphics are damaging gaming but still hate on gamefreak for low quality. which is fair, pokemon is the most porfitable franchise on the world and their graphics are not even mid lmao

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[-] Damarcusart@hexbear.net 27 points 3 weeks ago

Literally all they had to do was copy Pokemon Showdown. They somehow fucked that up so badly their only response will probably be to send Showdown cease and desists to eliminate the fan made competition.

[-] UmbraVivi@hexbear.net 25 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Many widely-used items (Choice Specs/Bands, Life Orb, AV) are just missing

Less than 200 Pokémon currently

This is intentional and good and I will die on this hill. A lot of older players completely lose perspective for how much information someone has to process who starts playing Pokemon in the 2020s. Me, I started playing in 2005 when there were "only" 386 Pokemon, there was only Choice Band (no specs/scarf), LO and AV didn't exist either. I could learn about all the following 600+ Pokemon and items etc. gradually as they got introduced over the course of 20 years.

Imagine getting into Pokemon now and being expected to learn all of that at once before you have any chance at all of playing PvP. All of the 1000+ Pokemon, every item, move, ability, every generational gimmick with its intricacies.

Personally I think the lack of 6v6 is indefensible but on the limits on Pokemon and items I will, in fact, defend the billion dollar company.

[-] MasterBlaster@lemmygrad.ml 17 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

This is similar to a thought I've had before, in that Pokemon should probably just stop making new Pokemon. It occurred to me during Dexit. With Dexit, both sides were pretty much right. One hand, much of the brand identity is lost when you cannot 'catch them all.' On the other hand, continuing to design, model, animate and code 100~ new mons every year is unfeasible.

And to what end are we adding 100 new mons to the roster every year? Pokemon has wallowed in recreating the same experience for decades now. Three starters, early route rodent, three legendaries, a super duper legendary, some dragons and fish along the way - IMO, ~1,000 mons is a great stopping point. From there they should have just reshuffled mons and leaned on regional variants, and added maybe 2-3 new mons for special occasions.

Had they done that, no dexit, and maintaining a competitive scene in their showdown clone would be a reasonable request.

[-] ElChapoDeChapo@hexbear.net 7 points 3 weeks ago

The biggest failure was waiting too long to do regional variant forms when they were an obviously good option from gen 2 onwards

Gen 5 being mostly half baked references to gen 1 was a terrible move and would've been way better received had they been the first batch of regional forms

Having 100 new mon every couple of years is one of many bad decisions made mostly because that's how they did it once and then it just became tradition that was never questioned internally

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[-] thelastaxolotl@hexbear.net 12 points 3 weeks ago

they will add them eventually so your defence wont matter

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[-] WokePalpatine@hexbear.net 11 points 3 weeks ago

I'd agree more with this if Champions was some single-player thing.

[-] Runcible@hexbear.net 8 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

for a window into this experience might I suggest Path of Exile (1)

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[-] thelastaxolotl@hexbear.net 22 points 3 weeks ago

Pokemon Showdown Supremacy continues

squirtle-jam

also you cant do singles 6v6 lol

[-] hello_hello@hexbear.net 13 points 3 weeks ago

Someone in the replies is saying turning off IPv6 fixes it and I just want to say Game Freak I'm a huge fan, no one understands those funny numbers.

[-] thelastaxolotl@hexbear.net 15 points 3 weeks ago

also apparently its not by gamefreak, its by the company that made the bad Gen 4 remakes

[-] WokePalpatine@hexbear.net 8 points 3 weeks ago

It's so stupid how these companies that used to do low-stakes demakes/ports of games are now doing remakes and spin-off titles and fucking up in increasing amounts.

[-] Carl@hexbear.net 8 points 3 weeks ago

I have a conspiracy theory about this. There was a brief period when Nintendo had great third party games coming out of its first party franchises, and then it suddenly stopped and we entered the slop era - I believe it's because the company made this an official policy to make their first party dev teams look better by comparison by only giving licenses to cut rate developers (and also screw them over with impossible schedules, low budgets, etc). That's why we will never see titles like F Zero GX (Sega) or Zelda the Minish Cap (Capcom) again.

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[-] BironyPoisoned@hexbear.net 12 points 3 weeks ago

When was the last time Pokemon was even good?

The first 5 minutes of Red?

[-] PKMKII@hexbear.net 17 points 3 weeks ago

Pokopia’s been pretty well received, but Koei Tecmo made it so that’s why it doesn’t have the usual half-baked cash-grab Gamefreak stink on it.

[-] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 8 points 3 weeks ago

It's also a copy and paste of dragon quest builders 2

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[-] Aquilae@hexbear.net 7 points 3 weeks ago

Gen 5 was peak Pokemon; in the art, story, music, all of it

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[-] asdasd201@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 3 weeks ago

Common Nintendo L. I'm wondering how they still exist after all these basic mistakes.

[-] Goblinmancer@hexbear.net 8 points 3 weeks ago

Genuinely hilarious they let the three elemental monkeys before most other pokemon.

[-] RNAi@hexbear.net 8 points 3 weeks ago

Can't wait for the Jimquisition video about this shit

[-] KuroXppi@hexbear.net 8 points 3 weeks ago

One of the best comments on the vid

BUG MONTH

doggirl-lol

[-] KuroXppi@hexbear.net 6 points 3 weeks ago

I miss bug month doggirl-gloom

[-] microfiche@hexbear.net 7 points 3 weeks ago

Corporate money grab not well fleshed out who knew.

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