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[-] bookmeat@fedinsfw.app 12 points 5 hours ago

Without grounding, correctness is not defined. Hallucination is not a bug that scaling can fix. It is the structural consequence of operating without concepts. -- Gregory Coppola

[-] Teppa@lemmy.world 31 points 15 hours ago

AI's dont know that birds arent real, or that sometimes the pressure from being under water for an extended period of time can cause fish to explode.

[-] squaresinger@lemmy.world 40 points 16 hours ago
[-] alsimoneau@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 hours ago

That's all it can do.

[-] Sylvartas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 hours ago

under the pseudonym Johannes Bohannon, John Bohannon ...

I can see why he went into science and not, say, creative writing.

[-] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 7 points 12 hours ago

they do the same to protect doctors from malpractice lawsuits. there is a (laughably peer reviewed) study that claims tylenol and morphine are equally effective at pain management.

[-] BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world 15 points 13 hours ago

Wait, so breaks containment means spreads misinformation? What timeline is this?

[-] FinalRemix@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

It's a screenshot of a post on bsky. Don't read too much into the specifics of the language...

[-] Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world 17 points 17 hours ago

“When the text looks professional and written as a doctor writes, there’s an increase in the hallucination rates,” says Omar.

Huh, now there’s something we have in common. Trying to make sense of something a doctor wrote makes me feel like I’m hallucinating, too. Is there a class in medical school on “Illegible Handwriting,” or is it just a coincidence?

In all seriousness though, I wish I could be surprised by AI failing at this. We have entered the Misinformation Age. There’s no closing Pandora’s Box, though this time I can’t find the “hope” that’s supposed to be in the bottom of it. Society would have to turn real skeptical real fast, but I’ve met enough people to know that such a tranformation is going to take time - and by “time” I mean “decades or longer.” With AI already here, we’d have to wise up immediately… but I fear that humanity isn’t mature enough for that yet.

[-] Jako302@feddit.org 4 points 12 hours ago

We've crossed the point where natural skepticism could've saved us months ago. Feedback loops of made up sources where a problem way before ai was a thing, but now you can be five sources deep, reading trough papers published by multiple different scientific magazines or universities, and still won't have found the actual data all the papers depend on cause there wasn't any in the first place.

And once a single one of these papers gets published, there will be about one million SEO articles on shitty clickbait websites that, in this case, would try to sell you a home remedy for your supposed illness. So searching for any useful information is pretty much off the table.

[-] sunnytimes@lemmy.ca 7 points 16 hours ago

ask the ai about a blue waffle

[-] Arghblarg@lemmy.ca 57 points 1 day ago

Good. This shows plainly how LLMs don't think, don't truly understand anything, and have no critical ability to do introspection or fact-checking. It seems the only way to teach the world of these things is to make it impossible to ignore via absurd demonstrations like this. If the "AI" well must be poisoned in order to wake people up, I'm all for it.

[-] Teppa@lemmy.world 6 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

Isnt 80% of its data from Reddit anyways, seems quite poisoned already given the amount of confidently incorrect people.

With how Reddit is monetizing itself now I'd assume Lemmy actually becomes more widely used than Reddit however, since it should be totally free.

[-] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 40 points 23 hours ago

I wonder if we got a group together to go on reddit and stack overflow and give really wrong programming answers and vote them to the top, if Claude would start sucking? They could always just revert to a previous model and it would probably be too hard to get enough people and content to have an effect with such large training sets. Maybe if you use ai? Lol

[-] Napster153@lemmy.world 7 points 19 hours ago

Didnn't something similar happen to Grok but ended up with it generating a ton of CSAM material that circulated twitter?

[-] kadotux@sopuli.xyz 19 points 18 hours ago

Sorry for being that guy today for you, but you can just say CSAM. It stands for Child Sexual Abuse Material". smh my head :P

[-] portuga@lemmy.world 8 points 16 hours ago

Your last sentence saves you from being pedantic. Fun stuff, RIP in peace ✌️

[-] Uriel_Copy@lemmy.world 4 points 15 hours ago

Classic RAS syndrome! (Redundant Acronym Syndrome)

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[-] DeathsEmbrace@lemmy.world 125 points 1 day ago

Before anyone shits on these scientists it said over and over again it was made up and that officially the USS Enterprise labs were used to make this discovery.

[-] Kacarott@aussie.zone 8 points 19 hours ago

The Federation would never publish fake data, so it must be true!

[-] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 146 points 1 day ago

I give you... "The Grant Money Printing machine!"

Need a grant? Create a disease and submit a paper. Then write a grant asking for money to solve your invented disease.

[-] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 9 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

If you want research grants there is already a glitch for that. You just jam "AI" in your research and suddenly government cares about progress now.

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[-] magnue@lemmy.world 28 points 1 day ago

Wouldn't humans do the same thing if someone literally writes lies on the internet?

[-] Kacarott@aussie.zone 36 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

If it were convincing lies made to deceive, then sure. But in this case the papers were deliberately made to be immediately obviously fake, to anyone actually reading them.

So I guess the question would be "would humans do the same thing if someone literally writes obvious jokes on the internet?"

[-] HylicManoeuvre@mander.xyz 12 points 20 hours ago

More shockingly, three Indian researchers published a research paper that cited the preprint on the fake disease in Cureus, a peer-reviewed journal published by Springer. It was subsequently retracted.

lol

[-] Honytawk@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 17 hours ago

Looks at Flat-Earthers

Yes they would

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[-] Blackout@fedia.io 66 points 1 day ago

Find a way to make AI hurt billionaires and I will support it.

[-] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 43 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

That's pretty much what local ML is.

If open weights LLMs take off, and business users realize they can just finetune tiny specialized models for stuff, OpenAI is toast. All of Big Tech's bets are. It's why they keep fanning the "AGI" lie, and why they're pushing for regulation so hard, why they're shoving LLMs where they just don't fit and harping on safety.

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