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submitted 2 years ago by alsaaas@lemmy.dbzer0.com to c/memes@lemmy.ml

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/7597775

Alienation of labour, what's that?

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[-] Jay@sh.itjust.works 47 points 2 years ago

I'd love to have a job where I get paid to work with excel the whole day. Not kidding.

[-] Signtist@lemm.ee 27 points 2 years ago

It's pretty dope, especially when you get to work from home. I'm usually in my pajamas snuggled under a blanket. Much comfier than dress pants in a cubicle.

[-] Naboo_calls_for_aid@sopuli.xyz 9 points 2 years ago

WFH is my goal, already doing the excel, company I'm in is really relaxed, so can't complain, but WFH would be nice

[-] EmoDuck@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 years ago

I never got why people love working from home so much. Home has so many distractions like my PC, my phone, my fridge, etc.

It also helps to just physically seperate my work from my free time. My home is my fortress where no work shall ever be done, a place for resting and wanking.

Also, work was like 90% of my social interaction and the pandemic really did a number on me.

In a cruel twist of fate, I now work almost exclusively from home, a dream for others, a dread for me.

[-] Signtist@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago

I waste just as much time on my phone at work that I do at home, but at home I'm able to freely seek out a distraction when I need a break, and devote my attention to it until I've got some motivation again, then get back to work. In the office I have to try taking a break covertly when I need one, which doesn't lower my stress very much, and leads to me taking even longer breaks trying to regain my motivation.

As for separating work and free time, I have no issue stepping away at the end of my shift; I only work for money - I don't give a shit about the company itself - so, as soon as I'm no longer counting the time toward my paycheck, any and all motivation to continue working immediately evaporates.

A lot of people seem to really need social interaction, which definitely seems to be the biggest reason they might not enjoy long-term work from home. I seem to be the exception to that. During the height of the pandemic even my most extroverted friends eventually started craving social interactions, but I would stock up at Costco and go literal months without ever once leaving my house, and I loved it.

[-] IndefiniteBen@leminal.space 4 points 2 years ago

Have you tried walking to and from work every day? It can help you pretend they are different places.

You wake up and do your morning routine, then you walk around the block and start your working day when you reach your home office. Then at the end of the day walk around the block and home to mark the end of your work day.

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[-] SuiXi3D@kbin.social 45 points 2 years ago

I feel incredibly blessed to have a job that allows me to do my work on my own time, and to utilize company resources to educate myself while on the clock. I honestly get excited to go to work nowadays, and it’s great. :)

[-] alsaaas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

You have drawn a good lot it seems. Tho no matter how pleasant the job, you still create more value for your boss than you get paid back by them... (value extraction for profit lessss goooo)

[-] SuiXi3D@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago

Oh believe me, I’m well aware. Having a healthy work environment doesn’t change the fact that it gets harder and harder every year to pay rent.

[-] alsaaas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

That's why it makes me livid when landbastards talk about "passive income"... it's just extorting money from working ppl (who actually create value) for the “privilege” of having one's basic needs met

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[-] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago

It's pretty plain for me to see it. I still like my job as well, but I know my company charges clients 3x my hourly wage for an hour of my time.

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[-] Diabolo96@lemmy.dbzer0.com 36 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Doing excel for 9 hours straight is far better than breathing toxic gases inside a damp,badly lit coal mines tho. Juste saying...

[-] alsaaas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 45 points 2 years ago

Yes of course and eating trash is better than eating shit

[-] Diabolo96@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 years ago

What I mean is that work conditions have vastly improved compared to the last century (thanks to unions). It may be miserable yes but it's a far cry from the horrible work that our ancestors were forced to endure starting from a young age.

[-] alsaaas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I get what you mean. Ofc class struggle has brought us many concessions, technology progresses over time and the industrialized countries add more and more abstraction layers to manual work.

My point would be that we do have to view the working conditions relative to what's possible at the given time. Given the resources humanity has today, fully automated luxury (queer) space communism is within realistic reach!

It's a similar answer as to world hunger: it's a systematic distribution - not resource - problem. That being artificially created scarcity thanks to a profit and greed driven economic base (capitalism) and inequitable/inefficient allocation of resources (markets)

[-] Diabolo96@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 years ago

I can only agree

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[-] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 years ago

I suppose that is the 3 largest domino.

[-] Marin_Rider@aussie.zone 22 points 2 years ago

It would be nice to have that kind of job security

[-] peskywarrior@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Well it's either that or you design something like a "Jump To Conclusions" mat

[-] Mr_Fish@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago

Why not automate stuff? Do enough janky shit with excel functions and macros so you get everything you need from copying data into a worksheet.

[-] CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de 19 points 2 years ago

Then you're only getting more work, not more free time, for the same wage

[-] Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 31 points 2 years ago

See that's where a lot of people go wrong

Automate what you can but don't tell anyone and don't turn it in any faster

Make your deadlines and be one with the chill

[-] GingeyBook@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago

Then you have to play the look busy game if you're in an office

[-] Piemanding@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 years ago

Some people excel at that.

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[-] FMT99@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Then you're doing it wrong. If you're good at automation you can get promoted readily.

But hey if you hate Excel that much why not find another type of work. Be a carpenter. Be a tour guide. No one is forcing you to work an Excel-only office job.

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[-] synapse1278@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago

Today I received a meeting invitation from the CTO (this doesn't usually happen, I am getting dragged into a mud trap), the agenda for the meeting is "Plan to prepare for the preparation..." and my contribution to that meeting is to come prepared with a timeline of the plan. I am not even kidding.

[-] jaschen@lemm.ee 10 points 2 years ago

I used to work for a 2 billion dollar company and when we meet with the CEO, we have a week's worth of planning meetings. Such a waste of time.

[-] EmoDuck@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago

I hope you did some work in preparation of this meeting

[-] miss_brainfart@lemmy.ml 14 points 2 years ago

I somehow managed to avoid excel my entire life, and I'll be so lost whenever using it is actually going to be required of me

[-] Waffle@infosec.pub 10 points 2 years ago

Get on Google sheets or something to stay organized... Learn how to use index match and how to nest formulas (e.g. countifs, sumifs).

It's incredibly frustrating when someone at work can't navigate an excel file or a spreadsheet.

[-] miss_brainfart@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago

It's incredibly frustrating when someone at work can't navigate an excel file or a spreadsheet.

Oh, I know the feeling, be it in other areas.

[-] Agent641@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

I love google sheets. I made some nifty little functions in it. Then I discovered appscript and things got a little weird. I made an automated CRM system. An automailer. An animated dancing badger made by changing the colours of the cells. It gets a bit hazy after that.

[-] Okkai@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

😬 I moved from a restaurant job to an office and live on Excel now. I have probably not used it for 10 years before this. I'm beginner level for sure. Any suggestions on how to improve quickly?

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[-] shiveyarbles@beehaw.org 13 points 2 years ago

At the pearly gates.. what did you accomplish in life?

Uh I excelled 9 hours a day for 40 years.

Great, come on in!

[-] jaschen@lemm.ee 10 points 2 years ago

The last block will be "Prompt Writing/Engineering"

[-] Brown_dude69@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

I personally feel attacked.

[-] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago

Yeah. What about those of use who are in Google Sheets 9 hours a day? Fuck OP.

[-] alsaaas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 years ago

I'm sorry, how could I forget? smh 😔

[-] EvolvedTurtle@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago

Hey, This is lemmy! You gotta include the open source ones too like OpenOffice and LibraOffice That might fly in other platforms but not lemmy

[-] alsaaas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Lmao, I don't think they enjoy whidespread corporate usage tho. Also Excel is pretty much a synonym for spreadsheets in general at this point

[-] alsaaas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Sorry to hear that... Maybe join a union and/or socialist party/org in your area to bring about change?

It's ok if you don't have the energy/motivation for that though... maybe just spread the word that a better world, where the economy is democratically controlled and owned by the public, is possible?

[-] danc4498@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

I love me some excel formulas! Makes me hot and bothered!

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