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[-] BeanBoy@hexbear.net 85 points 11 months ago

I think it would be cool if they could bundle all of these subscriptions into a single payment that will fund all essential services. Not sure if anyone’s tried that before.

[-] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 36 points 11 months ago

I know, it's quite the taxing dilemma

[-] hexaflexagonbear@hexbear.net 31 points 11 months ago
[-] BeanBoy@hexbear.net 26 points 11 months ago

Guy Fieri is doing an essential service

[-] happybadger@hexbear.net 66 points 11 months ago

I have Ambulance+ so that the paramedic doesn't read ads to me the entire way. You get more bang for your buck if they're treating your injury instead.

[-] quarrk@hexbear.net 6 points 11 months ago

Literally me when I have to watch a mid-CPR ad about Joe Rogan’s podcast

[-] viva_la_juche@hexbear.net 53 points 11 months ago

Ambulances costing anything anyway is such a marker of a failed society like wtf

[-] invalidusernamelol@hexbear.net 13 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I was asked if I wanted to be taken to the hospital in an ambulance after I got T-boned by an F150 and they followed it up with "the ride will cost $2000 if you don't have insurance" even though we were within walking distance of the hospital (like 500 yards).

I walked instead.

[-] booty@hexbear.net 16 points 11 months ago
[-] invalidusernamelol@hexbear.net 8 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I exaggerated a bit, the hospital was actually closer to a quarter mile and I didn't actually go because I didn't have insurance so I sure as hell wasn't stepping foot in an emergency room lol

Good news is that I have insurance now, so next time I'm in an accident, the ambulance ride is only $1000 and I only have to pay $8000 out of pocket at the hospital (with a $50,000/year max that they'll cover before it's on me again).

Good thing I'm spending $200/month on that coverage, whatever would I do without the $50 off at urgent care? (Where the base cost of a visit is $200). Kinda wild how you have to take the employer option is it's available or you get fined and if you aren't insured you get fined, and if you have insurance you still have to pay fines.

[-] Gosplan14_the_Third@hexbear.net 5 points 11 months ago

Fun fact - I looked at travel insurance recently because of a trip I'm planning and it cost 15€/week... with the specification "/without USA and Canada". If you want to go to the US, this temporary insurance costs 25€/week

[-] Cysioland@lemmygrad.ml 52 points 11 months ago

People will do this shit instead of paying higher taxes

[-] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 26 points 11 months ago

America already has the highest healthcare spending per capita! We pay higher taxes AND do this shit

[-] star_wraith@hexbear.net 7 points 11 months ago

We don’t just have higher healthcare spending. Our health care spending per capita is about double what it is in countries with universal healthcare.

[-] Elon_Musk@hexbear.net 13 points 11 months ago

People actively advocate for this instead of paying higher taxes

[-] invalidusernamelol@hexbear.net 6 points 11 months ago

The issue is that higher taxes won't solve it, lower taxes and a single payer or state owned healthcare system would.

As it stands higher taxes will just drive up rates and line the pockets of insurance executives.

[-] envis10n@hexbear.net 3 points 11 months ago

The increased taxes pay for universal healthcare, which would take the place of the current costs. If you remove the cost of current healthcare plans, and pay less than that cost per year in taxes, it would pay for universal healthcare AND be less expensive. But it won't happen because taxes bad.

[-] invalidusernamelol@hexbear.net 5 points 11 months ago

We already pay enough taxes into medical services to fund a UHC. Which is why you'd actually pay less in taxes (true single payer will reduce cost across the board) and also not have to pay for private healthcare.

The current system isn't some compromise, it's theft.

[-] star_wraith@hexbear.net 11 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Universal healthcare is actually popular in the US. Pretty sure most polls show a majority want it. And one thing you have to do when determining how popular universal healthcare is you have to subtract out responses from the over 65 crowd. You do that because they are the demo most opposed to universal healthcare but they are also demo where most everyone is already on universal healthcare (Medicare). Subtract out their wildly hypocritical opinions and universal healthcare is wildly popular.

It’s just that liberal democracy never actually delivers what people want.

[-] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 46 points 11 months ago

In Cyberpunk fiction, the privatization of essential medical services serves to show the decline of society

[-] barrbaric@hexbear.net 32 points 11 months ago

Hey, $60 is a good deal compared to the rates for CrashCart, DocWagon, or Trauma Team!

[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 15 points 11 months ago

We live in a worse Shadowrun that doesn't even have an Awakening or AmerInd states taking back much of the US. sicko-wistful

[-] invo_rt@hexbear.net 7 points 11 months ago

We'd get to fight actual dragons of capitalism bawllin-sad

[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 30 points 11 months ago

What if ambulances, but with a subscription and also QR code swiping that's cloud computed on the blockchain with gamified incentives?

[-] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 11 months ago

This is one of my absolute favourite memes. I love this so much.

[-] invo_rt@hexbear.net 13 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

The 30-something disroooopter

This meme is such a banger

[-] TheCaconym@hexbear.net 9 points 11 months ago

You post this one often but I never tire of seeing it, thanks rat-salute-2

[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 9 points 11 months ago

When techbros actually innovate something new I'll find something new to dunk them with. soviet-chad

[-] LeylaLove@hexbear.net 4 points 11 months ago

This is a banger meme, especially with the text around him looking like shit I've seen on my ayahuasca trips. Gotta say though, these types of people will pretty much never do ayahuasca because you can't have cocaine or amphetamines within a few days of the trip unless you want to die.

[-] emizeko@hexbear.net 29 points 11 months ago

is this the market responding to people using Uber to get to the hospital

[-] LaGG_3@hexbear.net 31 points 11 months ago

It's a county government subsidizing ambulance costs, but in a stupid pay to opt-in way instead of just doing it. Just wait until the market starts doing shit like this - it'll be ghoulish. deeper-sadness

The American healthcare system is a slot machine.

[-] Dolores@hexbear.net 19 points 11 months ago

Just wait until the market starts doing shit like this

is this ironic because that's exactly what insurance does. this is just that 'public option' insurance but only for ambulances lol.

and i'm sure it's brought on by insurance companies making their product so expensive & fighting to not pay anything, if anything i'm curious if these acute conditions will force local governments to do that for more than ambulance costs---but that's hindered by the hospitals generally not being public

[-] Alch_Fox@hexbear.net 21 points 11 months ago

Weren't we just memeing on this shit like...a few years ago? Why did the lathe have to pick up on that?

[-] ElChapoDeChapo@hexbear.net 19 points 11 months ago

Turns out the lathe was also the torment nexus the whole time

[-] came_apart_at_Kmart@hexbear.net 21 points 11 months ago

you can signup for AmbulenceLX which costs just $120 a year, but comes with an AmbulanceLX Credit Card which gives 4% cash back on all medical co-pays, 2% cash back on gas, and 1% cash back at Evan's Country BBQ.

[-] invo_rt@hexbear.net 20 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Hellworld. How many people could be paying for this?

  • For the sake of argument, per the 2020 census, Wake County has ~410K households.

  • At $60/household, that's ~$25M to cover all households.

  • Accepting that cost and depending on how you calculate the population, that's $20~25 per person per year to have free ambulances.

  • The budget for EMS in Wake County is $74M out of a $1800M total county budget.

  • 1% of the budget reallocated and all ambulance services are free and it would certainly be less than that at scale. Just fucking reallocate the money.

[-] usernamesaredifficul@hexbear.net 15 points 11 months ago

ah but you see poor people are feckless and if you gave them free ambulances they'd only spend them on drugs and booze

[-] invo_rt@hexbear.net 10 points 11 months ago

How could I forget about the moral hazard? lea-finger-guns

[-] SoyViking@hexbear.net 8 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

If you didn't charge for ambulance rides the poor would abuse them and use them as taxis, laughing while hard-working law-abiding property-owning citizens would die from heart attacks because all the ambulances are busy driving irresponsible poor persons to liquor stores and drug dens.

[-] riseuppikmin@hexbear.net 18 points 11 months ago

Death to America

[-] carpoftruth@hexbear.net 17 points 11 months ago

Wake county because people are always dying for fear of medical bankruptcy

[-] LaGG_3@hexbear.net 17 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Fucking Wakeism ruining everything pronounjak-rage

spoilerCouldn't the county just directly subsidize ambulance care lol. What a amerikkka-clap solution.

[-] SoyViking@hexbear.net 16 points 11 months ago

In the case of an emergency the last thing you should worry about is paying for the ambulance — WHICH IS WHY THE GOD DAMN AMBULANCE SHOULD BE A FREE PUBLIC SERVICE YOU CRETINOUS VAMPIRES!!!

[-] Judge_Jury@hexbear.net 14 points 11 months ago

Countdown until they have EMS insurance that you pay for by the hour, when you think you're most likely to need it stonks-up

In less than 5 years, it’ll go from $60/year to $60/month.

[-] janny@hexbear.net 8 points 11 months ago

The depressing thing is that if this does what it says it does then this is actually a really good deal. If this was being offered locally I'd probably get it tbh

[-] Egon@hexbear.net 5 points 11 months ago

I thought taxes were the subscription?

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