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submitted 1 year ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world

America has a new epidemic. It can’t be treated using traditional therapies even though it has debilitating and even deadly consequences.

The problem seeping in at the corners of our communities is loneliness and U.S. Surgeon General Dr. Vivek Murthy is hoping to generate awareness and offer remedies before it claims more lives.

“Most of us probably think of loneliness as just a bad feeling,” he told USA TODAY. “It turns out that loneliness has far greater implications for our health when we struggle with a sense of social disconnection, being lonely or isolated.”

Loneliness is detrimental to mental and physical health, experts say, leading to an increased risk of heart disease, dementia, stroke and premature death. As researchers track record levels of self-reported loneliness, public health leaders are banding together to develop a public health framework to address the epidemic.

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[-] spittingimage@lemmy.world 142 points 1 year ago

American corporations: "how can we monetize this".

[-] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 61 points 1 year ago

Friend as a service (FaaS)

[-] Stache_@lemmy.ml 24 points 1 year ago

Subscription based friendships

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[-] AVengefulAxolotl@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Yeah, its called an AI girlfriend. Damn, some people actually pay for that.

[-] Cyberflunk@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago
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[-] otp@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

There's OF if you don't mind sharing

[-] violetraven@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 year ago

Doesn't Japan already do this?

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[-] Hyperreality@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago

They already know how to monetize this. They market their product as a solution.

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[-] MSgtRedFox@infosec.pub 10 points 1 year ago

Ha, said Zuck at Facebook a long time ago.

[-] norske@lemmynsfw.com 91 points 1 year ago

It costs too much to be out and be social. There is no place for people to congregate that doesn’t require you to spend money. Even churches have $ expectations. In most places the local public library is the last free third space. I know everyone seems to love remote work, but for me remote work forced the place of my biggest stress to be in my house and I hate it. I’ve been mostly remote for the last 13 years and I’ve realized that I need an onsite work place so I can maintain my home as my place of relaxation and escape.

[-] Alto@kbin.social 45 points 1 year ago

Not just the cost, but the fact that so many people are working 50+ hours a week just to survive and simply don't have the time or energy. When you've gotta pick up a second job on the weekend to make rent, you're probably not going to have any energy to go out.

[-] krellor@kbin.social 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I know it's tough when you can't separate work and home. I don't know what your setup is, but I only use the work laptop and not the monitor and dock they sent so I don't have to give permanent space to work stuff. When work is done the laptop closes and gets put in the work backpack next to my desk.

Likewise, I commute to my home work by going on a 15 minute walk around the neighborhood before and after so I get some time separation. Giving myself time after work especially to mentally come home was important.

Best of luck figuring out the right balance!

[-] JJROKCZ@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Many of us can’t do our jobs off of just a laptop screen or most laptops

[-] krellor@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

I understand. I was a software developer and engineer for twenty years, complete with quad display and everything. I, painfully, switched to laptop only even before COVID so that I could be productive while traveling. But I kept a dock on my office. When I needed more resources than my laptop had, I started using servers in AWS. I understand wanting the benefit of the extra displays, but I decided that my personal boundary was not giving up the space in my home. So when COVID hit I permanently went to single monitor.

I know not everyone can or wants to do that. But if you are struggling with work home separation with remote work, I suggest trying it on case it helps. Your happiness is worth the x% efficiency hit, unless that is the margin that will get you fired.

[-] Rolder@reddthat.com 4 points 1 year ago

For me I just maintain a dedicated work area, but thankfully my brain is able to switch from “clocked in” to “clocked out” mode easily enough.

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[-] vithigar@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 year ago

There is no place for people to congregate that doesn’t require you to spend money.

I just go to friends' homes, or they come to mine. I'm quite happy to entertain rather than go out, it's more convenient and costs much less.

[-] EmpathicVagrant@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
 Not everyone is so lucky as to have friends to visit - there used to be places where one could socialize without spending money, and without having to entertain a vice like the bar or casino.
  There’s really no options for folks to go and just meet similar minded people, so new friends are just harder and harder to find as we get older. 

Idk how I made that font happen but I’m leaving it there.

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[-] Got_Bent@lemmy.world 72 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I would say in chronological order, social media, violently divisive politics, and the forced isolation of COVID rendered me incapable of socializing anymore.

All of it has made me feel like I cannot function in the presence of others. I still have to go to the office to work, so that's pretty much the extent of interaction I get. Otherwise, outside of work, I tend to not speak at all to anybody.

I won't call it a happy life, but it's safe. I guess I've got whatever a word for social agoraphobia would be now.

I should note that I'm fifty one years old. The first four decades of my life were very social. Then it all gradually faded away.

[-] krellor@kbin.social 20 points 1 year ago

Social skills are a skill like anything else, and building up the mental stamina to engage other people like a muscle. I know many people who just lost all of that practice and stamina during COVID, and it wasn't a good change for them. I kept up lots of digital contact, like moving weekly pub night with friends to zoom and playing Jack box games, and that helped a lot with keeping those skills.

If you want to start being more social, I would recommend finding little regular ways to rebuild those skills and stamina. Online bookclubs with a monthly web conference can be a good way to start. But if you're happy, best of luck either way! Merry Christmas!

[-] HerbalGamer@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago

I kept up lots of digital contact, like moving weekly pub night with friends to zoom and playing Jack box games, and that helped a lot with keeping those skills.

That's a lot harder to do if you don't have such friends to start with.

[-] nicetriangle@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago

Yeah the muscle analogy is what I always use and it’s so true.

[-] autumn_rain@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

It's like being bullied or grounded for some behavior crime over and over again. After a while a person stops caring about the things that got taken away and goes into suspension about liking anything because that too gets used as a weapon.

[-] Kadaj21@lemmy.world 42 points 1 year ago

My MiL was just asking me about the places i hung out as a teen (40yo here) because in HER day they had teen social clubs and all. I looked at her as if she had a third eye lol. I think it was the local mall, or CCG/TTRPG shop for me in my town. In the area I’m at now they’ve practically banned teens from the mall after a certain time. I have no idea where my kiddos will be able to go when they’re older. Hopefully my red state doesn’t obliterate libraries at least, though I’m in a blue spot.

[-] krellor@kbin.social 17 points 1 year ago

Many of those social clubs had membership fees, and I suspect people today who can afford those fees likely are still going out. I think part of the challenge is a certain large percentage of the population, say 40%, has been edged out of the economic ability over the last 40 years to consistently spend money of those social opportunities.

But yes, the lack of free or affordable third places is a huge generational challenge and disadvantage in so many ways.

[-] WeeSheep@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

Has the fed considered increasing federal wage to keep up with cost of living from the past 50 years? Maybe increasing taxes on ultra wealthy or even a wealth tax to pay for third places that use to exist?

I know what you're thinking: but how will they afford their seventh yacht for their fourth vacation home?

[-] Pips@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 1 year ago

Well, no, because the Fed can't do any of those things.

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[-] breakfastmtn@lemmy.ca 22 points 1 year ago

Everyone should be assigned a new middle name based on a random object and number. Then everyone with the same middle name should be considered cousins. I'll be Dr. Wilbur Daffodil-11, for example. All the Daffodil-11s will be an extended family -- I'll have family everywhere I go. Drop a pin on a map and you'll find family members to meet or catch up with! Lonesome no more!

[-] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 31 points 1 year ago

I don't even want to keep up with my real cousins.

[-] breakfastmtn@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Ah, the loneliness of the apple fallen too far from the tree is perhaps the greatest loneliness of all. A family unmoored from the millstone of genetics might just be the solution you need! Don't let your blood ties get you down, my friend. Recording and producing legend Quincy Jones? COUSIN (and you can call him "Q"!). Secretary of a society for the preservation of local birds, Maggie Mumphries (who I just made up)? PRIMOS. Renowned author and pediatrician Mark Vonnegut? Cut off your sleeves and crack open a Corona like Dom Turetto cuz you're FAMILY.

#LonesomeNoMore2024

[-] Yamainwitch@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

I feel this on such a deep level you don't even know. Yamainwitch is always here for you my darlings! Cousins? Hell yeah! Siblings? Why not! For all my fellow unwanteds, I want you, I see you and I love you!!

[-] Kase@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

I love your energy

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[-] moitoi@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 year ago

Alienation through the capitalization of the cognition. This coupled to the myth that the individual is responsible paved a way to isolation and loneliness.

[-] Mango@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago
[-] ByGourou@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 year ago

Alone != Lonely.
I prefer being alone but being lonely and not having the choice is really bad.

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[-] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

The time of my life when I had the best mental and physical health was when I was often alone for 1-2 weeks at a time.

[-] Karlos_Cantana@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago

I wish I could have some time alone. I never have any time to myself.

[-] Zorque@kbin.social 18 points 1 year ago

The problem is that so many social interactions are forced and empty. We have to perform so many perfunctory social interactions that many people just don't have the energy (even with extroverts to an extent) for more meaningful interactions.

[-] billiam0202@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago

Oh my god, this is exactly how I feel about Christmas (though I'm an introvert). Socially-mandated decorating, and socially-mandated dressing up, and socially-mandated gift purchasing, and socially-mandated time with extended family. When did holidays turn into just a different kind of work?

[-] autumn_rain@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Well said. Back-to-back holidays are a chore, financially and mentally draining, and all the billions of decorations wind up in landfills.

[-] ExLisper@linux.community 3 points 1 year ago

I just call my parents and send some texts for Christmas. I know it's probably difficult for other people but I never had issues with finding excuses not to go home for holidays.

[-] randomaside@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 year ago

You guys wanna start a fight club?

[-] resketreke@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

Not only in America, unfortunately.

[-] PugJesus@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

ha ha it me fr fr

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