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[-] vulgarcynic@sh.itjust.works 86 points 2 years ago

They drink pretty much the whole movie. It was a game to drink along with them when my partner and I were younger.

[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 32 points 2 years ago

Sounds like fun. I'll try this next year.

[-] TheGreenGolem@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 years ago
[-] jtk@lemmy.sdf.org 13 points 2 years ago

🎶 It's Christmas morning somewhere 🎶

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 years ago

That's... That's not how Christmas works.

[-] Kase@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago

How would you know, punk? What are you, a reindeer?

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago

Reindeer can't type, they don't have any fingers.

[-] Kase@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

You fell for my trick - now I know you must be an elf! How else would you know reindeers have hooves?

[-] Nelots@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago

You underestimate the determination of a reindeer.

[-] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

But they don't though. They are only seen drinking alcohol at the end on Christmas Day. Literally, there's only a few scenes that even feature the parents, and none of them until the end include alcohol consumption.

Chronic alcoholism, and their tinsel was filled with lead

the 1950s and its consequences has been a disaster for the human race

[-] Slagathor@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago

The lead made the tinsel taste better though.

[-] Peppycito@sh.itjust.works 15 points 2 years ago

The idea to decrease alcohol consumption is an incredibly recent development in human history.

Which started long before the 1950s. The temperance movement in the US started in the first half of the 19th century.

So relatively recent yeah, but not really relevant in this comment thread.

[-] Peppycito@sh.itjust.works 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Did you know that human history includes historic events that happened in the second half of the 18th century? It's true!

Some historic events didn't even include Americans!

[-] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Didn’t alcohol use actually go up during temperance? I swear I read some studies on that. Like that was the reason it failed – alcohol use not only increased, but the alcohol that was available became more dangerous, so temperance was reversed and regulations on how it was made and licensing were instated.

[-] Aggravationstation@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

You may be thinking of prohibition when alcohol was made illegal in the USA in the 1920s.

[-] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 years ago

Yep, you’re right.

[-] Geobloke@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago
[-] Peppycito@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago

You're right, elimination is a decrease. Point taken.

[-] ThirdWorldOrder@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago

Probably because alcohol and automobiles don’t mix too well

[-] AutistoMephisto@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago

If there is one thing I could bring back from that era, it would be the durability of their appliances and materials. Much better than this throwaway culture we have, where everything is made to last a couple years past warranty, then thrown out at the first sign of malfunction. Shit from the 1950's was built to endure decades of regular use, and repairs were simple and cheap.

[-] vrighter@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 2 years ago

so how come they're so rare nowadays? I mean everyone had one back then, why aren't the overwhelming majority of these appliances still with us? Survivorship bias, that's why

[-] Vqhm@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I've lived in at least 20 residences across 4 continents and only one of those was from the 1920s.

It still had an original stove.

That stove was the fucking best shit ever. It was amazing. I swear to God I have never been able to cook bacon so amazingly as on that stove top.

I don't disagree that survivorship bias is a thing. And perhaps I had the best possible option of that era. I mean, yes with an induction top I can do great things. With an MSR dragonfly gas stove I can cook the camp a great breakfast anywhere in the world. I've cooked on wood fire stoves. I've cooked primitive fires in outback Australia and the himiliaya mountains... But there was something special about that 1920s stove that I've won't ever forget.

[-] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

You either live an interesting life, or are a great storyteller. I choose to believe both.

[-] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

How do you downvote a compliment?

[-] biddy@feddit.nl 2 points 2 years ago

Side note, MSR dragonflys are the shit. I love everything about them, the literal drink bottle of petrol you have to carry around, the crazy aluminium foil windshield, the pumping, the way they spray fuel everywhere as you light them, then the tower of flame that almost burns down the building as it primes. Cheap to run, indestructible, perfection.

[-] bamboo@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 years ago

I recently heard an interesting take on a podcast that prior to electronic calculators and especially computers, doing calculations was very tedious, time consuming, and not as precise for complex calculations. This resulted in things being over engineered to compensate.

Once it was easier to make calculations, you could easily figure out the minimum amount of resources needed to make a product last during the warranty period. With spreadsheets, you could have a complex view of all variables and tweak the materials to maximize profit, largely at the expense of durability.

This is I think one of many factors, including survivorship bias, why people feel like they don't make em like they used to.

[-] SleepingTower@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

My dude, they said "1950's", and "decades". They're no longer around cause it's been decades since the last one has been produced.

[-] vrighter@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 2 years ago

but if they were "built to last" then surely we shouldn't have needed much more produced after market saturation. And yet, they actually are vanishingly rare today. Which means most did break down

[-] SleepingTower@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Sure, I'll agree that they did break down. Everything does at some point or another. Back then it was easier to repair your equipment and you had the right to. That's why they were "built to last"

Then, as time passed, that changed. It became difficult to find the necessary parts for repairs.

Example: My father is a heavy equipment mechanic. I'd say somewhere in the last ten to twenty years, his suppliers started to refuse selling specific parts he needed because he's an independent.

He also described to me how some jobs he takes today feel like he's handling a bomb. If he so much as trips a stray sensor, a representative from the machine's manufacturer will come sniffing around the yard to catch him.

Then there's the knowledge required to perform the necessary repairs. The common sentiment I hear from people is that it's cheaper to replace than to repair. They're not wrong, however this way of thinking demotivates the need to learn how to repair it.

So yeah. Those built to last machines have broken down. Knowledge and parts for them have become difficult to acquire, however an enthusiast willing to put the time in to repair them will have a machine that hums for the rest of their lives.

[-] Furedadmins@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Tons were thrown out for fashion or modernization, not because they broke down. Kitchens have trends that last around 7 years and even back then people wanted the latest designs.

[-] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 1 points 2 years ago

Don't discount how much marketing convinces people they need to just buy new shit every few years either. I've seen a lot of perfectly functioning appliances replaced just because someone saw something they thought was nicer "on sale".

[-] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 2 points 2 years ago

I don't know, their lamp seemed pretty fragile.

[-] Gordon@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Sounds Italian

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago

As long as you weren't Black, Native, gay, trans, homeless, a woman, or any other marginalized group -- then yeah, the 50s were grand

[-] MrGG@lemmy.ca 26 points 2 years ago

I haven't seen this movie in a really, really long time, so I don't remember what the dad actually looks like, but in this frame and at this angle he looks like a weird morph of Tommy Lee Jones and Bob Odenkirk

[-] hDGGgrLpg8nEucjxWnJz@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago

I see that. Weirdly also seeing a festive sprinkling of Bryan Cranston

[-] son_named_bort@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago

You know this wine's not bad. It's not good either.

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 13 points 2 years ago

Fragil'ee. Must be Italian!

[-] EvilEyedPanda@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

The knowledge that they were drunk the whole time puts the whole movie in a different context.

[-] HeyJoe@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago

I am pretty sure the wine was homemade and gifted to them from another family member? So they decided to drink it after opening it. Not that it changes anything, but at least there was some context as to why.

[-] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

That's a level of detail definitely not announced in the movie. The only time the wine is referenced is when the dad says "the wine's not bad, it's not good either!"

[-] FIST_FILLET@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 years ago

can't tell if this is a photo of a paper or the editor went through the effort of making the black text background look better than just plain black, either way kudos

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