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No. Blowing up Suleimani with a predator drone was not an assassination. No. Blowing up Saleh al-Arouri with a drone was not an assassination.

Assassination requires a scheme or subterfuge. It's creeping up on someone or setting up for the perfect moment. An entire military department directing a distance strike at a convenient moment is not an assassination, it is an act of war.

Assassination is ALSO generally an act of war but the method and context is different.

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[-] AlkaliMarxist@hexbear.net 32 points 2 years ago

I disagree somewhat, I think an assassination is the targeted killing of an individual or group of individuals.

Differentiated from a military action because the intention is to kill a specific person and from murder because the goal is to effect some political gain.

[-] ForgetPrimacy@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 2 years ago

Oh baby talk proper-use-of-effect-as-a-verb to me again!

[-] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 30 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

It's when you dress up in all white and jump on a dude from thirty feet in the air and then stab him precisely in the neck, then having a philosophical discussion with them in a white room

[-] ksynwa@lemmygrad.ml 20 points 2 years ago

Have to say requiescat in pace afterwards otherwise it's just murder

[-] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 18 points 2 years ago

Leave it to the Italians to come up with a Pope-killing loophole

[-] infuziSporg@hexbear.net 14 points 2 years ago

~~assassination should be narrowly understood in the modern Marxist context that Lenin defined it in, we shouldn't call ancient groups like the Hashashayin "assassins"~~

[-] Dolores@hexbear.net 6 points 2 years ago

i'm on team 'any politically motivated murder' is an assassination. does this make most soldiers deaths assassination? yes. i do not care.

'assassin' is used with less discrimination in other languages.

[-] ClimateChangeAnxiety@hexbear.net 5 points 2 years ago

I fully agree. An assassination requires at least some uncertainty about the culprit. A missile that kills 9 innocent people and one target* that you take full credit for is an act of war, not an assassination.

*The target is also almost always more innocent than every person involved in the strike.

[-] voight@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago

No. Blowing up Suleimani with a predator drone was not an assassination. No. Blowing up Saleh al-Arouri with a drone was not an assassination.

NATOids are really gatekeeping assassination now

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