Do Americans think skiing in general is the same as alpine? Skiing isn't any more bougie than going for a hike.

You clearly don't have an adequate appreciation for how bad golf is if you think this is an appropriate comparison

It’s pretty fun. I don’t think anyone who has to drive a long way and pay big for outdoor clothes and equipment rental is having fun though.

Some of the nicest memories I have are stunting on rich tourists in fifteen year old thrift store gear that got refurbished at a shop in the off season.

It’s nice to go fast.

fuck it I will go to the mat for skiing. not those monstrous resorts but cross-country skiing and also backcountry skiing are both fun, except for the avalanches that kill at least one of your friends every year.

Fun fact, the OG big covid wave in my country was almost single handedly brought in by bougie skiiers partying in Austria, in the middle of a pandemic.

They just had to go skii, in a pandemic.

The genetic variant testing has revealed that not a single actual wave or mass spread ever happened here from outside the circles of bougie whiteness, no matter how hard they tried to make headlines of the "Chinese tourist" with covid.

And the fact that energy is spent in putting fake snow on the ground for these people so they can do their sport in climate change destroyed mountains is also a thing. They fly to these places to ski on artificial snow...

Not to mention how this "sport" and the tourism done in Lapland around it exploits and robs Sami peoples lands.

I live in Colorado and used to go skiing a couple times every year as a kid (ie, when my parents were paying for it). It's pretty fun to go sliding down a scenic mountain at 30 mph, and it's rewarding to learn and get better. But now that I'm an adult I've decided that it's not really worth it to wake up early on a weekend, drive 2+ hours, freeze my ass off, spend a lot of money, and possibly hurt myself. Speaking of, you definitely want a helmet if you don't want to end up like Sonny Bono.

There are a few smaller and cheaper ski slopes that aren't crowded with rich tourists, but they're the exception. I've run into plenty of rich dickheads on the slopes, and lots of loud obnoxious Texans dressed fully in Cowboys gear.

unlike golf its a manner of conveyance so its weird to say its 'bourgeois' if theres people that just do it to get around snowy areas. the big resorts are great cancers on the landscape and society of the mountain though. rich assholes buy up all the property and all the required peons are immiserated having to make long dangerous commutes from adjacent towns or semi-indentured on-location

isn't the problem with golf the amount of urban space and absurd amount of water it requires? (and, like, country-clubs have a history of de jure racial exclusivity.) like, class resentment is very understandable, but this sounds like someone who hasn't carved fresh powder, ya know?

Most winter sports are pretty since white people are the only freaks who actually kinda like the cold.

I say this as a Mayo myself who enjoys the snow.

It's also much more dangerous than people think. Because skiing takes place on the snowy ground for the most part (excluding jumps and tricks), people think it's safe. But that's an illusion, if you have a fall at those speeds you're screwed.

I wouldn't be surprised if other sports like rock climbing or kayaking are safer.

Touch snow

in non-mountainous areas, they turn landfills into these sii hills so i think its a good fun way to use landfill land

People I know who go on skiing holidays are almost always rich snobs.

Counterpoint (there's no way that it hasn't been mentioned yet but I'm lazy and not going to look for it elsewhere)...

More white people die skiing than golfing.

Not to mention in most cases the town or county or state for all intents and purposes sells the land of the mountain to a private corpo to sell ski passes to you as if a fucking mountain is not a public good.

And bonus info on Protect the Peaks as Klee Benally just died, sometimes white people steal mountains that are sacred to local tribes and destroy them with skiing, massive tree clearing, etc.

https://protectthepeaks.org/

As a white person who was never able to afford skiing, I approve this message.

What is this racist ass post even saying? Do you think skiing resorts o ly exist in primarily white countries?

My parents are skiing right now 😆 🔫

your problem was going to a skiing lodge

Why does every fucking cartoon have an episode about it fuck you