Is it now the norm to make the term WiFi synonymous with the term cellular/mobile data (or 4g/5g)
They are not the same thing.
Is this like when people call tablets ipads? Or call vacuums hoovers/dysons.
Maybe someone has a router down there
Stone age people probably. Or a bear.
Well, that sort of highlights my issue and why i assume they meant mobile data. If they are, in the joke, connected to WiFi, then they wouldn't be surprised by the signal strength. Because they are near a router and therfore the signal is good enough to use. You aren't typically able to connect to WiFi if the signal is below -70 -80 decibels.
I think its fairly clear that they meant mobile data as this is something you would be surprised to still have if you were lost in a cave.
Not that i wouldn't be surprised to find WiFi down there, just that i wouldn't be surprised by the strength of the WiFi signal if i was standing close enough to a router to see the SSID.
It's like calling all fuel diesel.
I think they specifically mean Wi-Fi, not confusing it with cellular.
I would be surprised too if I went into a cave and suddenly my phone is connected to Wi-Fi. Where are the access points? Who is running internet all the way out here? I don’t see any telco boxes or signs of a human presence. Why do the speeds get faster the farther I go? Why did my phone connect to some random network when I specifically told it not to do that? It would be even weirder if it’s WPA3 protected or something because I obviously don’t have the password for the cave Wi-Fi
I'd say these examples are different, more like Kleenex where brand names become the common term. This is more like when parents used to buy a Wii game for your "playbox station".
I know people who don't know what an Ethernet cable is.
Internet = wifi / mobile data. And that's it as far as they are concerned
Routers, modems, switches, bandwidth, Ethernet etc. That's all just mysterious mumbo jumbo nerd shit. They only know that wifi = the symbol on their phone and that it makes their apps load. It's crazy.
Someone finish the creepypasta this is begging to be the start of.
Item #: SCP-███
Object Class: Euclid
Special Containment Procedures: SCP-███ is to be contained within a secure research facility located in ████████ National Park. Access points to SCP-███ are to be monitored, and unauthorized entry is prohibited. Exploration of SCP-███ is restricted to Level 3 personnel or higher, equipped with GPS tracking devices and standard exploration gear. Psychological evaluation is mandatory for all personnel before and after exploration.
Description: SCP-███ is a cave located within ████████ National Park, with an entrance disguised as a natural rock formation. The interior of SCP-███ exhibits anomalous properties, including the presence of a WiFi network with fluctuating signal strength.
The WiFi network is broadcasting from within the cave and has no identifiable source. The signal strength increases the further one ventures into the cave, peaking at approximately 200 meters below the surface. GPS devices and compasses can malfunction within SCP-███, and individuals may experience disorientation and temporal distortion.
SCP-███ was discovered by a hiker (Subject-███-Alpha) who became lost approximately 1 hour after entering the cave. The Subject utilized a smartphone equipped with a signal strength tracking application to navigate SCP-███. They failed to return, prompting Foundation intervention.
Efforts to locate Subject-███-Alpha within SCP-███ have been unsuccessful. Further exploration and research into SCP-███ are ongoing to understand its anomalous properties and potential hazards.
When you come face to face with an armed guard and the large steel door of the bunker that he's protecting, just let him know it was the Wi-Fi leading you there.
That's why everybody shows up.
Interstellar, Fallout, or something else?
Probably SCP. There's a file for everything in there.
Speed test to 127.0.0.1
How the hell did you get my address
Hey, it does not work me, getting ERR_CONNECTION_REFUSED. Do you have an alternative site I can check speed to myself? Thanks in advance.
http://localhost
He’s about to reach the secret core control room.
Hell has the best wifi because it doesn't give a fuck about FCC regulations.
Except that would mean awful wifi. FCC regulations stop ISPs from selling a worse product for more money to people with little to no choice in providers.
That's definitely true, and a good point to make. But yeah, the joke was that wifi signals can be stronger if they aren't limited by the FCC's radio power limits.
As a network specialist, I have a very different take on this. Why does your wifi at home suck so much?
You'll almost always get faster bandwidth on cellular, unless you have fiber to your home it's hard to compete with the available bandwidth on a commercial network, unless you're in an underserved and over-populated (device-wise) area, your cellular speed should, in most cases, far exceed your available bandwidth at home, but your home WiFi shouldn't suck. You should get, or at least approach speeds up to 1Gbps (or whatever your internet is capable of) on wifi.
A huge problem with it that I've observed is that people treat wifi like a huge truck, they just dump everything on it and that's it. It's not a big truck, it's a series of tubes.... Wait, that's another thing.... What I'm trying to say is that wifi is half duplex, like.... a walkie talkie. Only one person can talk at a time. With WiFi, each "person" (device) that "talks" (transmits) can do so at incredible speeds, so the channel is free sooner.... Unlike with a walkie talkie, when Timmy just won't let go of the talk button.... You can't hear anyone when you hold that button Timmy. Let it go when you're done talking.
Anyways, networks have a lot of stray, not useful (in terms of data throughput) traffic on it. Usually broadcasts (stuff sent to everybody) that should be sent to only a few devices. So there's a kind of static in the background that takes away from your bandwidth. The more devices you have, the more background noise there is on the network.
This is a problem when smart devices are all wifi based. There's ZigBee and zwave and others, but there's a large number of "smart home" devices which are WiFi. Imagine installing 20 lightbulbs which are all smart wifi bulbs, onto a network. That's a lot of static being added; and that static will reduce your wifi speeds.
That's just one example of many. More devices = slower wifi. Thus my motto with WiFi and devices is: use a wire when you can, use wireless when you have to. A good example of this in practice is.... When was the last time you moved your TV? You know, the smart TV with Netflix and everything built in.... Exactly. So why is it on the WiFi? It never moves, there's no need for it to be wireless. That's an easy example of, why not just run a wire to it once, then never think about it again. Copy and paste to desktop PCs which are on wifi, and set top boxes, etc.
Switching from wifi smart/IoT devices to ZigBee or zwave will also help....
The other point I would make is: throw out your all in one router. Yeah, the WiFi router you bought from Amazon/best buy/radio shack/whatever. Throw it right in the garbage. Buy something that doesn't suck. An easy option is ubiquiti. Put wireless access points in and use ethernet to connect them to the network. No mesh bs, or anything. You'll improve your wifi signal and wireless devices will be able to load balance across them. I have a space that's about 800 (ish) sq ft. I have two access points. One covers the space easily.... I still have two. Why? Because load balancing. So when someone is pulling a lot of bandwidth on an access point, the other is right there, in range, ready to take everything on that needs more bandwidth than the small amount left after that one demanding device has taken what it needs. The situation is great, I never have WiFi related slow downs and all of my devices can easily consume all of the available download from my ISP, and my firewall/router/gateway, does the load balancing for the internet connection.
"But it costs so much!", I hear you say. Well, how much do you spend per month on your internet service? $50? More? And you don't want to spend even $100 on a router, which will last years when you're spending $50/month on service? What kind of a fool are you? You're getting what you pay for. The $65 Netgear wifi router is going to struggle. Especially after a little while. Ubiquiti has put out several, recent, and inexpensive options recently for home use. There's the UDR, UX and UCG-Ultra for starters, ranging from $150-$200 (ish). You don't need the $400+ UDM Pro. Add a small switch and a couple access points and you're up to maybe... $500? That's the same as 10 months of internet. So for less than one year of what you spend to get access to the internet, you'll have a system that doesn't suck and will probably last 5+ years. If you factor that out, it's less than $10 a month. Cheapskate. You spend more than that on coffee in a week. Shut up.
TL;DR: your shit sucks. Do better.
WiFi and ZigBee can interfere with each other as well since they both run on 2.4GHz and pending on what channel you're on, will royally screw with the other. Moved (nearly) all my Smart Home devices to Z-Wave and has had better connection to nearly everything.
Yup. I didn't mention this because it feels a bit too much in the weeds to be helpful.
Bluntly, 2.4 GHz should be abandoned by pretty much all WiFi, only standing for the last remnants of legacy support, and for IoT devices that refuse to use 5Ghz. Everything of substance (phones, laptops, computers... Even TVs and STB's) should be on 5Ghz+
I'm also a fan of zwave, since it's usually in the otherwise abandoned (for consumer devices at least) 900mhz range.
I'm very strict about the RF airspace in my home. What operates on which bands and what's in use for which technology.
There's a ton more that can be said about it, but I need to get back to what I was doing. Have a great day.
Supernatural entities stealing children, adapting to the times lmao.
There’s a giant netgear router
The mother of all netgear routers. That's where all baby netgear routers are made
Then you hear a skittering in the darkness before you're devoured by a swarm of these things
Found the bunker
There is always good wifi in the mancave
My mancave is Ethernet-only, thankyouverymuch
Satan's WiFi
Th... this is my network!
It was made for me!
I feel like this ends with him finding the secret government experiments in said cave
This guy here https://lemmy.world/comment/8658597 made a little SCP entry for the cave, and I just had to see what chatgpt could do. It seems good enough to share, so -
ChatGPT
Item #: SCP-XXXX
Object Class: Euclid
Special Containment Procedures: SCP-XXXX is located in [REDACTED], and is to be secured by a perimeter of no less than 5 km, with signs indicating a protected wildlife reserve to deter public entry. Foundation personnel stationed at Outpost-XXXX are to monitor the perimeter for unauthorized access and conduct regular expeditions into SCP-XXXX to study its properties and effects.
Entrance to SCP-XXXX is restricted to Level 3 personnel and above, and requires approval from at least two (2) Level 4 researchers. Any electronic devices taken into SCP-XXXX must be approved by the research team leader and equipped with tracking and data logging functions to monitor the signal strength and any other anomalous effects experienced within the cave.
Due to the unique properties of SCP-XXXX, a dedicated research team is tasked with developing methods to harness or replicate the signal enhancement phenomenon in a controlled environment, under Project Codename: DeepWave.
Description: SCP-XXXX is a cave system located in [REDACTED]. Initial reports of the anomaly were made by local spelunkers who experienced unusual increases in their mobile phone signal strength, eventually reaching full signal bars at depths where no signal should logically be available.
Exploration and testing have confirmed that the deeper one travels into SCP-XXXX, the stronger and clearer the cell signal becomes. This phenomenon appears to affect all forms of wireless communication devices. Devices within SCP-XXXX do not connect to known satellites or terrestrial cell towers; instead, they receive signals from an unknown source. Attempts to trace the signal's origin have so far proven unsuccessful.
Further anomalies have been observed at depths exceeding 1 km. Electronic devices begin to receive messages from unknown numbers, consisting of texts, images, and videos that appear to be from various points in the future. The content of these messages varies widely, including mundane future events, significant global incidents, and occasionally, personal messages to the device's owner that are relevant to their future.
Addendum XXXX-1: Discovery Log
SCP-XXXX was discovered on [REDACTED] after local rumors reached Foundation operatives. Initial expeditions confirmed the anomalous signal strength increases and established the current containment perimeter.
Addendum XXXX-2: Incident Report XXXX-A
During an exploration on [REDACTED], a research team received a distress signal emanating from approximately 2 km deeper than any previous expedition had reached. The signal contained a warning of a containment breach of another SCP within the Foundation's custody, weeks before the actual event occurred. This incident has led to a reevaluation of SCP-XXXX's predictive capabilities and potential uses for foresight in containment protocols.
Addendum XXXX-3: Research Note
Ongoing investigations into SCP-XXXX's properties suggest that the cave may be acting as a conduit for a form of quantum entanglement with particles that convey information across time. Dr. [REDACTED] proposes that the unique geological and possibly extraterrestrial materials lining the cave walls could be creating a "natural" anomalous field, enhancing signal strength and enabling time-displaced communications. Further research is required to understand the potential implications and applications of this discovery fully
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