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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by nutomic@lemmy.ml to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

The names of previous Lemmy versions were all very boring and repetetive. We need something much more creative. Any ideas?

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[-] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 47 points 1 year ago

Eh, if someone on the team is feeling creative I don't mind fun version numbers but semantic versioning is quite searchable and reduces confusion.

[-] Shatur@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago

One does not exclude the other. You can have a fancy name and a semantic versioning.

[-] Tanoh@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

The problem is that it is almost always just one lf them. Let's say that v0.20 is called "Fuck Spez" and v0.21 is called "YouKnowWhatFuckMuskToo".

Most people are going to refer to them by either the number or the name, almost never are both used. The biggest problem with names is that they are rarely sortable (google did it with android, for a bit but not anymore), so in the future it is hard to know which is which without resorting to looking at a list of releases.

For example, in the future when we are on v0.30 someone might say "ah, but this has been an issue since "Fuck Spez"." And then most likely you have to look it up to know what they are talking about. If we coulld force everyone to alwaya write "version "Fuck Spez" (v0.20)" then it would be great, but that never happens.

I personally prefer just semantic versioning for this reason.

[-] Hamartiogonic@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago

What if the names were picked from whatever news was prominent during the release week. During last summer we could have had something like blackout or APIcalypse.

[-] TheGalacticVoid@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

People can search the name or SemVer and get the other name. It's not hard, not time-consuming, and it's way more fun. I genuinely miss when Android had dessert-themed names because it made the updates that much more exciting

[-] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago

I think that's the case and why I said it's fine in my OC, but the more I think about it I'm slightly concerned it might cause some fragmentation "Does anyone know how to force a user sync in Lightfoot?" and "How can I sync users (forced) in v13.8.12?"

[-] kautau@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Yeah it muddles with searching for answers, especially when the names are common things. Apple can get away with naming macOS on places in California, but it’s going to be tough searching “having trouble posting comments on Thor” or whatever. The naming scheme can work, but it has to be very unique

[-] kate@lemmy.uhhoh.com 2 points 1 year ago

I have exactly this problem when trying to fix issues on my MacBook :(

[-] Shatur@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Hm... Good point.

[-] QuentinCallaghan@sopuli.xyz 30 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Based on classification? Taken from a Wikipedia article concerning lemmings.

[-] GBU_28@lemm.ee 28 points 1 year ago

It's software versioning, not a new breakfast cereal

[-] demesisx@infosec.pub 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Motörhead had 23 studio albums.

[-] livus@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago

This, it means sooner or later there will be a Lemmy version called Orgasmatron.

[-] dessalines@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 year ago

We've been notoriously bad about doing more frequent releases, but if we were to release every month, then naming them could get annoying really quickly.

I'd prefer to just stay with the semantic version numbering, like a lot of projects with a ton of releases do. Like look at react's releases.

The fun named versioning makes sense for operating systems, that release only like once a year, but not for apps, docker services, libraries, etc.

[-] the_rogue@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

So are you saying we are gonna get monthly updates 👀👀

[-] dessalines@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

I'd like that, we just have to be more disciplined about not adding breaking changes too often.

[-] the_rogue@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

Take your time

[-] nutomic@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

We only do major versions around once a year so those could still be named, while using numbers for minor versions. Lemmy is more user-facing than react, so it would make sense to have a more user-friendly versioning.

[-] dessalines@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

I'd be good with that.

[-] jxk@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

I agree that there shouldn't be official names for versions.

[-] slazer2au@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

No we don't.

Versioning like this is good for knowing how far off you are from current.

[-] RedWizard@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago

Hmm so you're looking for a naming theme like the old Android scheme of Desserts or MacOS California Parks.

List off the top of my head

  • Tree Species
  • Cities, Towns, Villages in Cuba
  • Mushroom Species
  • Names of Wildflowers

That's all I got for now.

[-] scottmeme@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

My vote is for the mushroom species, I also just love eating mushrooms 🍄🤤

[-] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Add ridiculous titles for each version. For example. Lemmy Release v0.18.1: The Revengence

I just think it would be funny to have "Are you still on Revengence? Make sure you update to Snickerdoodle" pop up from time to time.

[-] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 year ago

Numbers. All the stupid ubuntu names are cheese.

[-] souperk@reddthat.com 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It sounds a bit too soon to use release names, especially given that Lemmy is still in alpha.

When a major release comes out, I suggest using colony names (fictional or real), like the pirate republic.

In general, I like names that highlight the decentralised aspect of the fediverse.

[-] kuneho@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I usually go with strange long animal names... like "Desert Cottontail"

[-] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 year ago

Books of the Bible, Torah and Koran

The amount of controversy it would generate would propel Lemmy into international headlines.

[-] souperk@reddthat.com 9 points 1 year ago

or chapters from "Das Capital"

[-] grant@toast.ooo 6 points 1 year ago

Having a name for a version would be nice for each major release (1.0.0 would have a name but 1.x.x wouldn’t, but 2.0.0 would, etc)

[-] LazaroFilm@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Call the next one Final and the one after that Final.Final

[-] pastermil@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
  • goddamn.final
  • truly.final
  • final.i.swear
  • final.ffs
  • no.more.revision
  • no.more.revision.please
  • no.more.goddamn.revision
  • no.more.fcken.revisiom
  • no.more.revision.ffs
[-] ouRKaoS@lemmy.today 6 points 1 year ago

use.this.one.actually

[-] livus@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

I feel attacked.

[-] pmk@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 1 year ago

I like the TeX version scheme, it starts with version 3. After that it's:
3.1
3.14
3.141
3.1415 etc. Current stable release is 3.141592653. The message is that each version is a more accurate approximation of pi. It's not growing much bigger, but better.

[-] TheGalacticVoid@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

This is fun but also incredibly awful

[-] pmk@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago

Just like TeX :)

[-] SomeBoyo@feddit.de 4 points 1 year ago

The descriptions up until 0.18.5 seem very informative.

[-] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

Name it after famous Lemmy's.

V1.0 - Killmister
V2.0 - Koopa

[-] lemann@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago

Music artists? Bands? Mountain names? Types of peppers? Either one would spice things up a bit I think lol

[-] disposable_cracker@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

Maybe various rodent species?

[-] NorthWestWind@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Larry
Roy
Wendy
Iggy
Morton
Ludwig

[-] harcesz@szmer.info 1 points 11 months ago

Just use track titles of Motörhead. Major release could have album titles.

[-] maegul@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Call me a shit stirer but I can’t help but wonder if this violates rule 3? Which I say not to have this removed from here but because of the IMO weirdness of not wanting any lemmy-support posts here as though lemmy isn’t a growing space in need of supporting new users.

[-] RedWizard@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago

This isn't a support question, as in a trouble shooting question. This is a question to the Lemmy community about the platform itself. Its an input/feedback request, not a "how do I use Lemmy" question.

[-] maegul@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Fair ... I don't really care that much TBH ... it just seemed to be blurring the lines and I've always been ambivalent about the strident anti-support stance of this community ... so I thought it'd put it out there.

[-] RedWizard@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago

I mean, the poster is one of the two lead developers of the Lemmy platform. He might get a pass.

[-] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Instead of “release v20” how about “full release v20”

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