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UN Security Council resolution calls for Gaza ceasefire (www.bbc.co.uk)

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UN Security Council passes resolution calling for an "immediate ceasefire" in Gaza, as US shifts position by abstaining from vote

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[-] soratoyuki@lemmy.world 98 points 7 months ago

So the months of coordinated efforts to by activists to disrupt Democratic meetings, harass Democratic politicians, chant genocide Joe, vote uncommitted in primaries, block traffic, support BDS efforts etc. was actually an effective method of protest that had a small but meaningful effect in changing foreign policy?

The methods of protest the state wants us to think are successful and the methods that can actually succeed are usually not the same. Please take note.

[-] Cornelius_Wangenheim@lemmy.world 21 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

And will they reward Biden for listening or reinforce the idea that there's no point trying to please the progressive left by finding some other reason to get upset and not vote?

[-] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 25 points 7 months ago

I think there's two sides to this. Criticizers shouldn't suddenly fall in line because we've made progress, but they also shouldn't pretend that nothing's happened.

The right answer is to give credit to Biden for listening this much, and continue to push for more. I agree though that overall, this action should earn him more progressive votes -- just not all of them, and not with all criticism disappearing.

[-] gastationsushi@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

Worthy and unworthy voters...

[-] mkwt@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago

There's a flip side to the politics: criticism from the right-wing pro-Israel faction is quieter than usual because a separate group of anti-semites have gained power in the Republican party.

Normally, Biden wouldn't have much incentive listen much to the far left, but right now he's not paying much in costs from the other side.

[-] gastationsushi@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

Normally Biden wouldn't have much incentive to listen to millions of his voters during an election year?

DC brainrot has entered the chat.

[-] mkwt@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago

No, he really doesn't, because of winner takes all elections and the two party system. The Nash equilibrium is for both major party candidates to align their platforms right on the 50% median voter. This maximizes the votes for both of them.

In this specific upcoming general election, Biden's base voters have nowhere to go to except the Cheeto fascist. Not much reason to cater to their policy preferences--they don't have a real choice. That's been reflected in the chatter on Lemmy as well.

[-] gastationsushi@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

You understand there is no such thing as a median voter. They are only issues and most voters have one or two issues they won't compromise on. Biden is alienating younger and Muslim voters. If Biden was converting 1+ Trump voter for every voter he loses, you might have a point. But there is no evidence he is netting votes from this. That makes no sense in an election that's fighting against authoritarianism.

Why can't we agree Biden that needs to go all out to win this thing?

[-] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 88 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Passed. US Abstaining with no veto. BTW it also calls for immediate and unconditional release of hostages.

[-] Blackbeard@lemmy.world 71 points 7 months ago

This is a pretty big shift for the US, and it means the pressure is finally starting to really register with Biden. If the "uncommited" results in the Michigan primary were enough to get his attention, recent polling that puts him 8 points behind Trump likely changed the debate for the foreseeable future.

[-] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 35 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Biden is playing diplomatic chess. Netanyahu warned the US before the vote that Israel would not participate in a meeting if the US didn't use its veto. So, now the US didn't. BTW, Hamas launched rockets at Ashdod right before the Security Council voted confirming its status as an equal fighting party in the war before a ceasefire.

[-] gmtom@lemmy.world 19 points 7 months ago

What you mean to tell me geopolitical diplomacy is more complicated and delicate than the people screaming "genocide Joe" think it is???? Shocking.

[-] soratoyuki@lemmy.world 29 points 7 months ago

No. It means enough people screaming genocide Joe loudly enough had a small but tangible impact on American foreign policy.

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[-] BlackPenguins@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Multiple polls had Biden ahead of Trump before this happened too.

[-] Blackbeard@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago

Not in Michigan.

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[-] Maeve@kbin.social 3 points 7 months ago

My country is coward.

[-] NoIWontPickAName@kbin.earth 4 points 7 months ago

Which one and why?

[-] Maeve@kbin.social 9 points 7 months ago

USA because it took this many decades to merely abstain and and not veto.

[-] catloaf@lemm.ee 10 points 7 months ago

They've been vetoing, the proper action would have been to vote to pass.

[-] FaceDeer@fedia.io 0 points 7 months ago

Abstaining has exactly the same effect.

[-] Maeve@kbin.social 5 points 7 months ago

Sends a different message though.

[-] FaceDeer@fedia.io 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

The best time to abstain would have been decades ago, but the second-best time is now. Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good; this was a good choice.

Edit: The downvotes are hard to interpret. Do people think the US abstaining (and thus allowing the resolution to pass) was not a good choice?

[-] radicalautonomy@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

this was a good choice.

Abstention is, by definition, the refusal to make a choice. And if you are not against oppression, then you favor the status quo.

[-] FaceDeer@fedia.io 3 points 7 months ago

That's not how it actually works, though. They knew that by not opposing it would result in the measure passing. Choosing to abstain is a choice.

[-] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 34 points 7 months ago

Everyone who ridiculed the Uncommitted movement is real quiet now.

[-] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Most people I saw on here were critical of being uncommitted towards the general election and don't care about being uncommitted during the primary. Several states don't even hold a primary for the party if they are currently holding office.

To add to that, they mostly agreed that Trump would tell Israel to finish the job, and they were right, that is what he ended up saying. Voting against Biden would in fact doom Gaza to genocide.

[-] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 7 points 7 months ago

The anti-left hasn't gone quiet, just shifting tactics and terminology.

Note how casually "progressive" is being used negatively, and not just here.

[-] Muehe@lemmy.ml 17 points 7 months ago

UN source: https://news.un.org/en/story/2024/03/1147931

The UN Security Council on Monday passed a resolution demanding an immediate ceasefire for the month of Ramadan, the immediate and unconditional release of hostages and "the urgent need to expand the flow" of aid into Gaza. There were 14 votes in favour with the United States abstaining.

Timeline of discussion in link.

[-] Keeponstalin@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

From the UN Summery:

The Council then adopted the resolution 2728 (2024) (to be issued as document S/RES/2728(2024)) by a vote of 14 in favour to none against, with one abstention (United States). By its terms, it demanded an immediate ceasefire for the month of Ramadan respected by all parties, leading to a lasting sustainable ceasefire. It also demanded the immediate and unconditional release of all hostages, as well as ensuring humanitarian access to address their medical and other humanitarian needs.

By other terms, the Council emphasized the urgent need to expand the flow of humanitarian assistance and reinforce the protection of civilians in Gaza. It also demanded the lifting of all barriers to humanitarian assistance at scale, in line with international humanitarian law as well as Council resolutions 2712 (2023) and 2720 (2023)..

Now that this Council has finally called for a ceasefire, all forces should ensure it is enforced, he asserted, adding: “This must be a turning point, this must lead to saving lives on the ground, this must signal an end of these atrocities against the Palestinians — a nation is being murdered, […] disposed [and] displaced for decades now — but never at this scale since the Nakba, never this openly”. However, he said that even if the ceasefire happened now and the siege was lifted, “it would take generations to deal with the trauma and devastation”.

[-] ad_on_is@lemmy.world 14 points 7 months ago

But what about the Hamas that's hiding behind all the Humans, and not to mention the beheaded babies. Isn't it a bit too early for a ceasefire, since Israel hasn't gotten its vengeance?

Oh wait... it's elections year. Got it!

/s obviously

[-] eskimofry@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

Hamas is more powerful than israel since even they invoke it for their own crimes.

[-] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 5 points 7 months ago

The United States actually let it happen. This would've been a hard veto otherwise.

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