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submitted 7 months ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world

The Dali was reportedly detained in Belgium after scraping side of quay and significantly damaging part of hull in good weather

The same vessel that hit the Baltimore Key Bridge on Tuesday, destroying it and sending people and vehicles tumbling into the water, was also involved in a collision while leaving the port of Antwerp, Belgium, in 2016.

According to Vessel Finder and the maritime incident archive Shipwrecklog, the Dali – a 948ft (290-meter) cargo ship with a capacity of 10,000 containers – was leaving the container terminal of Antwerp heading to Bremerhaven.

As it did so, its bow reportedly swung around, causing the stern to scrape the side of the quay, significantly damaging several meters of the hull.

The ship was reportedly detained by authorities afterward and docked in Deurganckdok, Belgium. There were reportedly no injuries or adverse pollution.

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[-] Atelopus-zeteki@kbin.run 84 points 7 months ago

I'm not sure what this implies. Defective ship? Was it the same captain, 8 years later? What's going on here?

[-] wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works 115 points 7 months ago

Defective management seems more like it. Poor maintenance, overworked crews, etc.

[-] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 53 points 7 months ago

The increase of “accidents of chance” infers that maybe they aren’t so “of chance”, basically

[-] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 53 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Per USA Today

The ship that struck the Francis Key Bridge in Baltimore Tuesday apparently lost power a few minutes before drifting into the structure collapsing a huge span and likely killing several people, according to a U.S official who was not authorized to speak publicly

I would bet management/owners have refused to pay for basic maintenance over crew objections and that's going to be a direct cause of this accident

e; better source, "Cargo ship lost power and issued mayday before hitting Baltimore bridge, governor says"

[-] John_McMurray@lemmy.world -3 points 7 months ago

I really, really doubt a ship they expect to cross oceans to make money, was skimping on maintenance. I could be wrong, i mean, look at fucking boeing, but it's cheaper to maintain your shit than deal with the consequences, even when the consequences are simply a break down, not this. and it's MAERSK.they have money.

[-] Atelopus-zeteki@kbin.run 15 points 7 months ago

I got thru the 'friends network' that the ship had lost power, and put out a 'mayday' call. This explains why so few cars were on the bridge at the moment of the collision.

[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 17 points 7 months ago

The BBC have a video of the full thing.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-us-canada-68667813

There's maybe a minute between power going out and the collision. Still cars going over at that point. Google Street View doesn't seem to show any lights or barriers that could have been used, and I don't know anyone that can scramble a road black that fast. That's a half mile long bridge. They had no chance.

The reason there's so few deaths is just because it was the middle of the night.

[-] Atelopus-zeteki@kbin.run 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Wikipedia says 1.6 miles. So it was already heading towards the support when power went out? Ah, I see power went out twice. I had also noted the black smoke in the first video I saw.

[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 5 points 7 months ago

The bit that actually collapsed was half a mile long. The rest seems to still be standing, so anybody on that bit would have been alright.

Hard to tell the path of the ship from that compressed angle tbh, or how far away it was. Dunno what anyone is supposed to do about it with a few minutes notice like that.

[-] Mac@mander.xyz 5 points 7 months ago

the black smoke is likely full throttle upon regaining power to attempt avoiding the structure.

[-] TimLovesTech@badatbeing.social 9 points 7 months ago

It was also 1:30 am, and work crews were pouring concrete fixing the bridge at the time. That probably meant at least some kind of reduced traffic during the night work I would think.

[-] nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

There would have been a police detail on the bridge with the construction crew. Which is incredibly fortunate. Sounds like they were in the best place they could be for such a tragedy.

It’s a shame they couldn’t help more of the workers escape.

[-] catloaf@lemm.ee 18 points 7 months ago

At most, it would reflect poorly on the operator. It's almost certainly not the same captain, since they move around pretty frequently. May or may not be the same engine crew responsible for maintenance. Someone else said they had two pilots on board in this incident, so it's extremely unlikely to be an issue with the regular deck officer staff. My money is pure coincidence. You spend enough time operating, you're bound to have incidents. They're just reporting on it because it's extra ad views for people whose curiosity is piqued.

[-] ItsAFake@lemmus.org 13 points 7 months ago

Ships obviously haunted by a vengeful spirit intent on causing as much damage as it can.

[-] Atelopus-zeteki@kbin.run 9 points 7 months ago

You can see that the vengeful spirit tore a hole in the side of the ship, and has escaped. So everything's fine now. Just need a new bridge.

[-] ItsAFake@lemmus.org 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

How do we know the spirit didn't enter another ship? All we can do is hope that it finished what it needed to and has moved on.

[-] Atelopus-zeteki@kbin.run 3 points 7 months ago

Is this really all we can do?

[-] marduk@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 7 months ago
[-] usualsuspect191@lemmy.ca 5 points 7 months ago
[-] deania@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

If your hot-dog tastes

Like a piece of wood

Who're you gonna call?

GHOST MUSTARD!

[-] Atelopus-zeteki@kbin.run 2 points 7 months ago

I did ask Albert to ask his friend Maersk. And I'm twiddling my thumbs. Like a lot. ;-)

[-] Veedem@lemmy.world 10 points 7 months ago

I think I heard on the news that, for today's incident, a harbor pilot was in control of the ship at the time of the accident.

Details are starting to suggest the ship lost power, and thus control, before hitting the bridge.

[-] Nobody@lemmy.world 23 points 7 months ago

Go take out the Kerch bridge and we'll call it even.

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 19 points 7 months ago

The Dali was reportedly detained in Belgium after scraping side of quay and significantly damaging part of hull in good weather

Well, at least it wasn't raining 🤷

[-] Frozengyro@lemmy.world 19 points 7 months ago

I assume this just means the crash wasn't caused due to rough waters, which and make it hard to navigate

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago

Yeah I know, but I still like my version better 😉

[-] dogslayeggs@lemmy.world 10 points 7 months ago

Pilot: "Captain, we just hit the quay!!"

Captain: "Yes, but look how beautiful it is outside!"

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago

Captain's Wife: " You care more about the weather than anything else, including me! I want a divorce!"

Captain: "alright, but check out those lovely cumulus clouds!"

[-] SkybreakerEngineer@lemmy.world 15 points 7 months ago

NTSB gonna have fun with this one

[-] MagicShel@programming.dev 14 points 7 months ago

I don't think this is gonna be anyone's idea of a good time. Maybe some lawyers.

[-] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 16 points 7 months ago

Living in a suburb of Baltimore has me super unhappy right now.

695 is gonna be fucked.

[-] MagicShel@programming.dev 7 points 7 months ago

I used to work just south of DC. I know that's going to be a nightmare for a long time to come. I mean, traffic everywhere along 95 was a nightmare on good days.

[-] tal@lemmy.today 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Maybe it'll create the impetus for a new route, be a long-term gain in terms of traffic congestion.

[-] Pips@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 7 months ago

The only long term solution is better light rail/public transport. Adding more lanes won't fix congestion, it demonstrably makes it worse.

[-] NarrativeBear@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

Correct 💯

"One more lane" won't solve anything, otherwise we would have already solved it by now.

[-] tal@lemmy.today 3 points 7 months ago

If you lose control of a Panamax freighter underway in a harbor, I wonder if it's possible to drop anchor.

[-] Hootz@lemmy.ca 6 points 7 months ago

They did drop it, it dragged along the bottom but didn't catch.

[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 14 points 7 months ago

Hmm, sounds oddly familiar. The "Ever Given" that blocked the Suez Canal had been banned from docking in Hamburg prior to that 2021 event due to steering issues.

[-] John_McMurray@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago

Who gives a fuck? That's like saying a car your daughter crashed was involved in a fender bender while being driven by the third owner back.

[-] girlfreddy@lemmy.ca 7 points 7 months ago
[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 11 points 7 months ago

Live? You mean it's happening again right now?? 😛

[-] girlfreddy@lemmy.ca 6 points 7 months ago

Yeah, my mistake there. Old brain syndrome.

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