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[-] Annoyed_Crabby 4 points 9 months ago

Just now saw a little girl coming out from the car while hugging a cat like how kid will hug their teddy bear, and the cat's expression is basically "this is my life meow", so cute 🤣

[-] stormy001 4 points 9 months ago

Greetings all.

How are you

[-] cendawanita 3 points 9 months ago

got free coffee so crisis averted for another day

[-] dukeGR4 3 points 9 months ago

Laying off coffee been having insomnia due to stress lol.

[-] cubedsteaks@lemmy.today 3 points 9 months ago

free coffee is always good!

[-] weecious 3 points 9 months ago

Found RM10 this morning. Will sedekah

[-] stormy001 1 points 9 months ago

ohh, will it sedekah to me? lol jk

[-] weecious 3 points 9 months ago

Already sedekah some to blind buskers, and a blind lady selling tissue. Wait tomorrow, I'll sedekah the rest.

[-] stormy001 1 points 9 months ago
[-] weecious 1 points 9 months ago

Gave out all!

[-] dukeGR4 3 points 9 months ago

Thoughts about Indian moon landing?

I think it’s ok to dream and it’s definitely a good source of inspiration for many people, but shouldn’t their money be spent on tackling poverty?

It’s by far the poorest country to have ever sent anything into the space. Unless they could somehow come up with ways to capitalise on their space expertise such as private launches etc I don’t see how it could help the poor people there much.

[-] cendawanita 8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

In general expenditure for space exploration (or big ticket stuff) is usually a red herring in conversations about poverty eradication. In part because there's the 1:1 fallacy in administration (tau tau a significant part is state authorities and their taxation revenue) but also in terms of dividends down the line. For sure you can critique the priorities on a matter of principle but it's not like USA was evenly and uniformly rich during their space race years (racial segregation pun was still ongoing apatah lagi how native Americans were actively experiencing cultural genocide).

What is interesting is the long-term impact to their ICT and technical R&D industries. Like it or not, one of their demographical time bomb was having a highly educated middle class and coming with no real pathway to a career outside the service sector and/or migration. Will this be enough of a pull factor? NASA is still operating in Florida because equatorial advantage despite the politics being so shit; many expats would still continue to work in China if they weren't being discouraged to do so. Speaking of China, having manufacturing hubs like Shenzen arguably contributed to improved economic conditions and India has an even younger and dynamic population who may take all the science and engineering they're learning formally and informally and do something. The fact that a lot of space-oriented tech has come back to earth such as it is, and entered civilian life in good ways can't be overstated (titanium and lighter metals = better designed tools and prosthesis for the old and the disabled; better water filtration; carbon dioxide filtration), so imagine what can happen if much of this can be done on a global south economic budget.

In any case, if I want to be genuinely concerned I would think about the fueling needs of such a sector and the fact that both India and Pakistan are nuclear-owning countries 😌 but I remain always hopeful whenever any genie is out of the bottle when it comes to common folk having the access to improve themselves and change the overall condition.

[-] cendawanita 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Specifically on technical innovation, a quote:

TBH if anything I don't want to see this be captured by private sector/the rich. Unless they want to do like that submersible lah... 😌

ETA: lol I guess selalu kena justify: https://spinoff.nasa.gov/

[-] testing@blahaj.zone 2 points 9 months ago

india has done shit to eradicate poverty, but went on to become a fascist state where minorities can hardly survive > i don't expect any good outcome from india's space adventure - i mean, come on, they have even cut the periodic table from schoolbooks ...

india is a laughingstock of a country

[-] testing@blahaj.zone 1 points 9 months ago

to be fair, any country doing shit in space is a laughingstock:
usa ? lmao
russia? wtf
china? please no
japan? better invest in geronto-whatever
western europe? a mess

none of those space adventurers have done anything to make this planet a better place, and each of them have failed their own citizens > india is no exception

[-] cendawanita 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

It's easy enough to be skeptical and certainly I do expect in the near future the gains to be unevenly distributed but the last statement is so definitive that it's easy enough to disprove, I can't agree with it. Has India failed its citizens? Well, space exploration may just be but one more indignity, especially if you're certain nothing of value will never make its way back to civilian space (untrue) but also yet another indignity that if removed, will not change the traction on any of the other social injustices. There's righteous anger there but I cannot deny actual scientific outputs.

[-] cendawanita 1 points 9 months ago

Put it like this: literacy was never a means for making the lower classes educated just "better" workers.

But, they did get educated.

[-] testing@blahaj.zone 0 points 9 months ago

i don't care for any scientific output from space as long as so many big issues on earth remain unsolved which could have been solved at a fraction of costs for space adventures

also let's not forget that a great many spaceports have been built in areas which are nothing else but colonies, with french guiana being the most obvious example, or in territories originally belonging to native communities > no spin-off outcome of space adventures has benefitted locals directly, and if there were indirect benefits, they would still have to pay for them ...

the space race is a truly sad thing and nothing to celebrate at all

[-] cendawanita 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Certainly, anyone should continue to question the political strategy of any of these choices. I'm still not dismissing the scientific results since I can see wellbeing in my society benefiting from it. I wouldn't want to use these gains to excuse injustice but I have as little interest in using the injustices as rhetorical cudgel because as I said above, the administrative attention still won't be funnelled there even if removed. In the meantime the genie (access to tech and learning) is now out. Will there be a significant reallocation on the govt side? I doubt it and history bears it out. So how to resolve the tension? A foolish person would be the kind to be convinced it can be resolved in an afternoon in favour of one or the other.

Even to use the occupation of land as an example, you can of course then claim the political ideology of the natives suspect but at the same time a lot of advocacy is wanting to be part of the process as part of the reparations rather than completely kicking them out.

[-] cendawanita 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

And without getting into the rights of theoretical lifeforms on asteroids, the fact that deep space mining might just be possible and might just reduce pressure on many countries such as in Africa which are in turmoil due to this industry as well as as mining for space water, this is all things to be discounted? Let's just be mad because my room (earth) isn't clean. I can't possibly do anything else?

[-] Annoyed_Crabby 3 points 9 months ago

India is weird, everything is so polarised over there. On one hand they have a few people who's in the 50 world richest person, on the other hand their poor is so extreme it's hard to imagine. They have space exploration program yet they don't even have the will to explore and fix the issue in North India. It's the schrodinger country.

[-] cubedsteaks@lemmy.today 1 points 9 months ago

I think it’s ok to dream and it’s definitely a good source of inspiration for many people, but shouldn’t their money be spent on tackling poverty?

I don't know much about India other than its really crowded over there and the food is good- but with the over crowding, yeah they should probably focus on spending money on poverty.

[-] dukeGR4 3 points 9 months ago

Oh dear… do you guys still remember the Wagner Rebellion in Russia?

Putin allegedly kill the leader Yevgeny Prigozhin by shooting down the plane as it was leaving Moscow.

[-] stormy001 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Live by the sword, die by one.

Just another gangster kill another one.

"Behold the field in which I grow my fucks. Lay thine eyes upon it and thou shalt see that it is barren."

[-] ruk_n_rul 2 points 9 months ago

Damn, he fell off of something higher than any window.

Why is there still no Caesar (or for local history nerds, Sultan Mahmud) moment yet?

[-] dukeGR4 2 points 9 months ago

you can't have a Caesar moment if you kill everyone that hates you lol.

[-] dukeGR4 3 points 9 months ago

“The more you fuck around the more you gonna find out”

Had very spicy food yesterday I’m just finding out in the toilet rn 😭

[-] stormy001 4 points 9 months ago

The in is not the problem, it is the out.

[-] ruk_n_rul 3 points 9 months ago

"Spicy food is the only food you got to taste twice." – A certain uncle wearing orange polo shirt

[-] Annoyed_Crabby 3 points 9 months ago

Worth it? Worth it.

[-] Naomikho 2 points 9 months ago

You just need to get used to it :P

[-] dukeGR4 3 points 9 months ago

i hate how the mouth can take it, stomach and ass couldn't lol

[-] Naomikho 2 points 9 months ago

That is so me haha. When I came back to Subang my mouth could handle it but my stomach was on fire lmao. But I've gotten used to it again after a while.

[-] truckdrifter2 1 points 9 months ago

Lai, Chili Pan Mee for lunch tomorrow. A classic with a piquant 'spice'

[-] Naomikho 2 points 9 months ago

Hahahaha, I can actually handle that quite well :P

[-] truckdrifter2 1 points 9 months ago

Dang, stomach of iron and tongue of leather right here

[-] Naomikho 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I'm still not as good as two of my friends though. They can literally tank any level of spiciness and still don't feel anything XD while I enjoy super spicy stuff it's not like I don't feel anything at all

[-] dukeGR4 2 points 9 months ago

some guy's lowballing me on fb marketplace for so many days already, i got pissed off and just deleted the listing.

now look who's coming back to me.

[-] ruk_n_rul 4 points 9 months ago
[-] dukeGR4 2 points 9 months ago

damn maybe i should send this to him, annoying af this fella.

haggled it down from 550 to 500, then 400. sanineh

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