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[-] cynar@lemmy.world 93 points 7 months ago

If he's allowed to choose black or white, he could force Kasparov to play himself. Each loop he just includes whatever Kasparov did at the end of the chain last time. Eventually, this will result in a guaranteed win. He just needs to then reverse the side and replay.

[-] tetris11@lemmy.ml 20 points 7 months ago

After the match: "How did you know to move your Bishop to B6? The intricacies of the foresight of your play know no bounds against the delicate intentions of my best laid plans."

"I, uh, just had a feeling, ya know, that, yeah, you were gonna go there, and that uh, I should go to G16 to get you there, and that the, uhm, bishop was it?, was probs the best thing to go there, and so yeah I jumped him there and nailed your queen. Yeah."

[-] marty@infosec.pub 3 points 7 months ago

While that's a good idea, I'm not convinced your conclusion is correct. But maybe I'm just missing something. Why would they eventually arrive at a win, and not a draw?

[-] cynar@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago

There might be some complexity in a draw. You might need to get creative at that point. The question is, would he play himself to a draw, or to a win for 1 side.

It's a common stage trick though. A single "master plays 11 games of chess at once. He's actually just playing 1, against the weakest player. All the rest are paired off, and he just transfers their move across.

[-] Daxter101@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 7 months ago

That sounds really cool as a concept, but doesn't that require 1. An even distribution of black and white, and 2., doesn't that guarantee a 50/50 winrate on the event?

[-] cynar@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

It does, though winning 7 out of 13 games of chess is still quite an achievement, particularly when the players are of a very high level.

[-] LarkinDePark@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 7 months ago

Because if it's a draw, they play again until it isn't. Maybe there will be some dead ends and tracking back to take another branch but in the end the man can find a result that's a win.

[-] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 87 points 7 months ago

Finally a chess joke I understand. When Kasparov and Karpov played their tournament, it was identical openings each and every time with things getting different only in mid game at which point the win or loss was already in motion.

I got really good at chess from memorizing this tournament published in the newspaper at the time. It was the exact same game over and over with a single tiny variation that resulted in a win or a loss.

[-] mcqtom@lemmy.world 37 points 7 months ago

I'm no chess genius, but surely he could explain the situation to Kasparov and politely ask him to lose on purpose. Is he a dickhead or something?

[-] AceFuzzLord@lemm.ee 29 points 7 months ago

Assuming Kasparov doesn't remember each loop, I'd assume he's probably just going to think you're coming up with some excuse to either beat him or get out of having to playing the game.

[-] mcqtom@lemmy.world 14 points 7 months ago

Could also just leave out the supernatural part. I think he's going to figure out how to phrase it the right way long before he learns to play well or even plays Kasparov against himself.

Honestly just treat it like the first step of a magic trick, and then when he complies, you vanish from existence and that's actually a pretty sweet magic trick.

[-] intensely_human@lemm.ee 3 points 7 months ago

Then Kasparov is also released from the loop. He goes on with his life, never realizing that the only time he ever saw magic was the only time the conditions of his own imprisonment ended. He goes on to live the rest of his life, suspecting nothing, but always slightly haunted by that one day he canโ€™t explain.

[-] intensely_human@lemm.ee 2 points 7 months ago

Oh yeah, donโ€™t believe me? Your first sexual experience was in a kitchen. You like ketchup on your beans. Your favorite car is a โ€ฆ

[-] mihor@lemmy.ml 7 points 7 months ago

Kasparov? Yeah, he's a huge dickhead actually.

[-] teft@lemmy.world 26 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

If he never goes crazy and he has infallible memory then he will beat Garry eventually. If he doesn't have infallible memory then he will probably be stuck there until the heat death of the universe because he's probably going to play a lot of the same games.

[-] The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago

Hey, that sounds like me. I keep making the same mistakes...

[-] troglodytis@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

Creased uniform, am I right?

[-] TTimo@lemm.ee 14 points 7 months ago

Not go insane but also remembering all the games. Seems like there might be a problem there :)

[-] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 13 points 7 months ago

I genuinely love how Kasparov one day up and decided to go full on into Hearthstone.

[-] LesserAbe@lemmy.world 11 points 7 months ago

I would ask him a bunch of personal questions until I could later convince him I'm supernatural a la Bill Murray in groundhogs day in the diner.

[-] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 8 points 7 months ago

Considering only the chess? Impossible.

Considering the opportunity for social engineering? Absolutely possible.

[-] itsgroundhogdayagain@lemmy.ml 6 points 7 months ago

I was counting on Gary passing away until I got to that part.

[-] HowMany@lemmy.ml 5 points 7 months ago

How many possible games are there in chess?

Subtract "one".

[-] akilou@sh.itjust.works 3 points 7 months ago

How do I join a chess chat to participate in wars in?

[-] RedAggroBest@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

A lot of chess streamers on Twitch

[-] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 1 points 7 months ago

Yeah, and from there to the battlefield that are their Discord servers.

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