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[-] megabat@lemm.ee 146 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Who tf thought I'd ever want to edit a spreadsheet in a chat application anyway?

[-] Senseless@feddit.de 76 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

If only that would be the worst. Someone over at M$ had the glorious idea to set up a different admin center for every fucking thing. Sometimes they interconnect, sometimes you can edit user in several admin centers, some things you can only edit in a particular one. You're searching for specific settings over and over. And if that dumpster fire of bullshittery isn't enough they randomly change the naming of everything or the position of menus without any apparent reason. So the knowledge you gained where certain settings goes to waste and you have to start all over again. Damn you Microsoft. If I'll ever find out who's responsible for that shit I'll cut your head off and shit down your neck.

Edit: Just take a look at msportals.io to see how bad it has gotten. For my daily business I need several of M365 and Azure IT Admin portals. I hate it. I fucking hate it.

[-] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 6 months ago

If that's not shit enough, they also keep renaming and completely overhauling those portals again and again.

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[-] cerement@slrpnk.net 17 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

all that different from Discord? – people trying to use a proprietary chatroom for everything from support to wiki to knowledge base to documentation …

[-] DaGeek247@fedia.io 52 points 6 months ago

I can hate two things at once. You act like it's hard.

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[-] Amputret@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Don’t get me started. Monthly scorecards that are mandated to be distributed via Teams, but you can’t embed files in that sheet, otherwise Teams shits the bed.

Also, who would ever want to adjust volume levels for individual speakers? Every huddle is fucking torture.

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[-] KISSmyOSFeddit@lemmy.world 88 points 6 months ago

Haha, funny. But I actually know the lead developer behind Teams.

It's Microsoft Copilot.

[-] MisterD@lemmy.ca 24 points 6 months ago

We should have killed Clippy in the 00s

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[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 14 points 6 months ago

Makes sense

[-] klemptor@startrek.website 81 points 6 months ago

I haaaate Teams. Worst thing ever to happen to workplace productivity. And (unless this has been fixed since I retired) chat history isn't persistent past 6 months so you lose your proof of what was discussed, unlike email.

[-] cm0002@lemmy.world 59 points 6 months ago

unlike email.

Once worked a job in the financial sector, they enforced all Outlook clients to purge emails 3 months old AND disabled all of outlooks built-in archival tools...

Those bitches didn't disable VBA though, so I built my own Outlook archival tool all in VBA complete with an sqlite DB and a UI. Ironically, it was more stable and less susceptible to corruption than outlooks own tools lolol

[-] refurbishedrefurbisher@lemmy.sdf.org 47 points 6 months ago

That policy sounds like destruction of evidence before it's legally considered to be evidence.

[-] cm0002@lemmy.world 27 points 6 months ago

Oh it for sure was, a year or 2 before I was hired they got hit with a regulation violation (not sure which anymore, I think it was Reg B) and then a few months after that this outlook policy conveniently came into effect to "minimize impact from a data breach" lmao

[-] Steve@startrek.website 24 points 6 months ago

A subpoena is a certain kind of data breech if you think about it

[-] sandalbucket@lemmy.world 23 points 6 months ago

I work in cybersecurity. This quote is gold and I’m putting it on our office whiteboard.

[-] Brujones@lemmy.world 36 points 6 months ago

To me, this is its biggest flaw. You can't scroll back in chats very far, but you can search for lines further back. However in a truly spectacular display of uselessness, the search only returns the chat bubble you searched for, with no surrounding context.

[-] meowMix2525@lemm.ee 15 points 6 months ago

oh my god this drives me absolutely nuts when I'm looking for help I received months ago and distinctly remember enough to put into a search bar but can't go back to the actual conversation... even though it is clearly saved somewhere since it still comes up in search!!!

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[-] DrakeRichards@lemmy.world 12 points 6 months ago

The chat history is the big one for me. It’s not even that it’s not persistent; I’d be fine if it just purged all messages after a set period. The problem is that it seems to selectively purge some messages but keep others. Makes me feel like I’m crazy when I go back and try to find something that I know I sent a while ago, but there’s just a gap.

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[-] KazuyaDarklight@lemmy.world 11 points 6 months ago

Chat history is forever by default and has been for years so far as I know, anything else is a company policy. People don't appreciate how much control their company has over the experience.

[-] lemmylommy@lemmy.world 11 points 6 months ago

unlike email

Yeah, that’s unfortunately a thing, too. It’s the one size fits all solution to data protection and security. Made by people who like to make their own life easier, no matter the cost to everyone else. The GDPR does not allow us to store personal data indefinitely without reason, so let’s automatically delete every email without exception, no matter if it is still for an ongoing project or not.

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[-] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 62 points 6 months ago

I once worked for an organization that maintained a 10+ year old single excel file with no discernable backups for regulatory data.

The bar is low.

[-] BeardedSingleMalt@kbin.social 32 points 6 months ago

I once got called in to diagnose why it took 5 minutes to open up a single Excel file. The PC itself was a little dated and underpowered, but the file size was huuuge...like hundreds of MB.

It finally opened. There was ugly table-formatting...to the entire spreadsheet. Colored cell borders, alternating background fill, text and font formatting applied to every single cell; columns A-IV and rows 1-65,536. I pointed that out and said the only way to fix is start a new one and not apply the formatting, or to try and remove it from all the cells. She outright refused because she liked the way it was. So I left, and she went back to looking at pictures of her cats

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[-] cybersandwich@lemmy.world 16 points 6 months ago

They probably had an advanced distributed snapshot backup system. Where any and all employees that used the file in the last 10 years had a version of it saved from a point in time--potentially even on their personal machines or as email attachments to their personal emails.

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[-] xyguy@startrek.website 12 points 6 months ago

I had a client as of a couple of years ago with a custom fronted software build on top of an access mdb database running on windows 98 continuously since 2000. They had been backing it up onto a 18 year old 1GB flash drive every night for years. Their interest was exactly zero in upgrading to anything newer.

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[-] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 60 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I don't even know man. I used to click a teams link and teams would pop up. Now a splash screen for "new" teams comes up and none of my programmable mouse shortcuts work and it seems like sometimes it launches through a browser, other times it doesn't. I have personal and two work accounts which makes things complex too.

Edit; oh, and if I click on teams icon it says do you want to use "new teams" or "classic teams"? If I click on classic a brief screen pops up and in small print it says classic teams died in March of 2023 - Rip. Then the whole app just shuts down. It feels very amateur.

[-] kandoh@reddthat.com 25 points 6 months ago

I genuinely would love an opportunity to scream at the people who decided to release new versions of teams and outlook.

[-] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 23 points 6 months ago

I have yet to find anything at all better about "new" Outlook. The fact that I can't scroll through my calendar anymore is maddening.

May they step on a Lego barefooted in the middle of the night.

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[-] IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works 53 points 6 months ago

Honestly, I think that anyone who is this angry about Microsoft products needs to spend some time working with the types of industrial software that makes the manufacturing world go round. Just to get some perspective on what truly God awful software actually looks like.

[-] cerement@slrpnk.net 24 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

don’t forget all the crapware foisted off on small businesses – point-of-sale systems designed for Windows XP and the company’s gone belly-up but you can’t switch because all of your data is locked in – manufacturing hardware with proprietary EISA cards and drivers for Windows 98 and there’s not enough installs to justify reverse engineering …

[-] Toes@ani.social 21 points 6 months ago

Yummy visual basic apps that have been dragged into the modern era kicking and screaming

[-] Windex007@lemmy.world 18 points 6 months ago

My brother in Christ, IRC is a better tool.

Microsoft is failing to meet minimum standards of usability that has existed since the 80s

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[-] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 6 months ago

I've used fully functional chat applications, and I've used Microsoft Teams.

Teams is so bad it seems intentional

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[-] whotookkarl@lemmy.world 34 points 6 months ago

Microsoft has become really effective at developing malware like Windows, edge, teams, etc and selling it to corporations to spy on employees and contractors

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[-] NegativeLookBehind@lemmy.world 33 points 6 months ago

Microsoft Teams is proof that there is no god

[-] freebee@sh.itjust.works 12 points 6 months ago

It's proof that there is, god is evil.

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[-] ano_ba_to@sopuli.xyz 31 points 6 months ago

Every update, some thing breaks. The "new" Teams does not work well with the microphone on my work laptop, I've had to resort to using headphones. The interface just sucks too. I hate that the left pane auto-hides now. So inconvenient. It's not just Teams too. Every part of Office has broken for us during previous updates. I miss the times when Windows was just an OS for the most part and MS was not trying hard to be Apple.

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[-] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 24 points 6 months ago

Trying to share a video, a website, or ANYTHING visual on this stupid trash app is horrible. It shares at like 3 frames per second.

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[-] CompostMaterial@lemmy.world 19 points 6 months ago

I don't think people realize how much corporate policies affect their Teams experience. A lot of complaints I hear are not things I see in my experience because our Teams isn't strangled by corporate policies.

[-] aard@kyu.de 27 points 6 months ago

Vanilla teams is a a stinking pile of shit. Corporate policies just add a bit of bonus nuclear waste to that.

[-] Windex007@lemmy.world 14 points 6 months ago

Is corporate services what's causing activity badges to constantly have wrong numbers on them within the app?

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[-] ansiz@lemmy.world 17 points 6 months ago

Using Teams always reminds me that Microsoft bought Skype for billions, ruined it and developed a shifty replacement.

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[-] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 17 points 6 months ago

I just want to find whomever decided to write teams in electron, and punch them straight in their genitals.

Seriously, fuck that app.

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[-] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 15 points 6 months ago

Wait wait wait.. Are we talking about teams or "new teams"?

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[-] XEAL@lemm.ee 14 points 6 months ago

Why has Teams for GNU/Linux been discontinued, you bastard?

(yes, there's an unofficial client thankfully)

[-] InternetPerson@lemmings.world 11 points 6 months ago

(which you're not allowed to use, depending on company policy)

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[-] frankgrimeszz@lemmy.world 12 points 6 months ago

My browser said it wasn’t installed when I tried to join a meeting. It was. 10/10

[-] crawancon@lemm.ee 11 points 6 months ago

there's plenty to hate on Ms for, but oddly, teams doesn't trigger me.

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