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[-] ElGosso@hexbear.net 127 points 1 year ago

You missed the best line:

However, please keep this in mind - that being a Nazi sympathizer does not automatically invalidate one's opinions on other topics.

"Um, ackshually, that's an ad hominem smuglord "

[-] aebletrae@hexbear.net 43 points 1 year ago

It's particularly interesting that someone concerned enough with logical fallacies to complain of ad hominem attacks can have "[he may be a Nazi sympathizer but let's listen to what else he has to say]" happily coexist with "[Some Hexbears say mean things so no one should listen to anything else that any of them have to say]".

[-] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 42 points 1 year ago

They deleted my post pointing that out because ”Please don't post memes in this community”.

🤓 Well, ackshually I posted the Hitler detector emote, and emotes aren't memes.

[-] Tastysnack@hexbear.net 34 points 1 year ago

However, please keep this in mind - that being a Nazi sympathizer does not automatically invalidate one's opinions on other topics.

It does invalidate them and it invalidates anyone who says silly bollocks like this.

If you are stupid, ignorant and reactionary enough to sympathise with nazis then you legitimately lack the critical thinking, understanding, intelligence and compassion to be a normal human being with considered and reasoned opinions.

Wall food 🧱

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[-] Stoatmilk@hexbear.net 93 points 1 year ago

Love to catalogue and publish a list of all the times I got owned

[-] ElGosso@hexbear.net 46 points 1 year ago

Generally I think that posting your Ls is worthy of respect, but, c'mon, not like this.

[-] forcequit@hexbear.net 34 points 1 year ago

that's real music baby

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[-] CthulhusIntern@hexbear.net 66 points 1 year ago

What's with people calling insults "ad hominem attacks"?

[-] silent_water@hexbear.net 67 points 1 year ago

reddit debate pervert brain

You called me a redditor that's... that's gaslighting!

[-] ButtBidet@hexbear.net 30 points 1 year ago
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The ongoing demeaningfication of all words

[-] Harrison@ttrpg.network 24 points 1 year ago

Someone explained fallacies to them years ago and that's the one they can remember

[-] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 58 points 1 year ago

Lmao imagine admitting the being this owned

[-] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 45 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Tag yourself.

I'm "unimaginative impotent weasel"

[-] Char@mander.xyz 58 points 1 year ago

Maybe try not being a disingenuous condescending western imperialist nazi apologist?

Really says it all by the focus on “winning”. Doesn’t even care what is right or using different viewpoints to get to the truth of a matter. That’s explicitly engaging in bad faith.

[-] forcequit@hexbear.net 55 points 1 year ago

we've really had some rippers lately

[-] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 59 points 1 year ago

I missed shit like this honestly, it's one thing to have a vile self aware bigot trying to speedrun getting banned. There's something special about the stubbornly and deliberately clueless liberals that have been showing up since federation and then going off to complain about us on other instances that is really funny to me. Like we are bigger - relatively speaking - here than we ever were on Reddit. What do they expect to happen?

[-] forcequit@hexbear.net 52 points 1 year ago

Pretty sure mods are removing my posts by falsely claiming they are "Sectarian" in the modlog and then reposting them elsewhere on the site as their own bits.

[-] axont@hexbear.net 54 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I actually felt kind of bad for that person. They seem like an obsessive with an unhealthy internet habit. Like I thought we were terminally online? I've never once collected a screenshot album of grievances.

Folks, do yourself a favor and go outside occasionally.

[-] Tastysnack@hexbear.net 32 points 1 year ago
[-] axont@hexbear.net 45 points 1 year ago

Yeah, it's a huge thread with an album of 50 something screenshots of Hexbears disagreeing with them or just posting emojis like very-intelligent

It's a massive post with like multiple paragraphs and chapter splits and references to UN charters, all complaints about Hexbear. Accusations we're doing hate speech and genocide denial. I don't wanna link because I'm nervous about getting accused of brigading, and I actually am worried about this person.

Just touch grass every now and then, people

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[-] Tastysnack@hexbear.net 53 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

who-did-this Alright who called them a Colonial Comprador?

Because that's the best fucking insult I've heard in a while fr fr congratulations

[-] combat_brandonism@hexbear.net 33 points 1 year ago

it was in that unixporn thread about picking a better term than ricing where they were going hard at the pickme angle (shocked-pikachu)

[-] combat_brandonism@hexbear.net 32 points 1 year ago

shockingly, though they very authoritatively claimed that my 'comprador' comments would be removed, it appears they're still up

almost like a person from so-called Taiwan who's pro-american is, in fact, a colonial comprador

[-] motherofmonsters@hexbear.net 49 points 1 year ago

These are all good insults. Not a Reddit portmanteau anywhere.

[-] MultigrainCerealista@hexbear.net 32 points 1 year ago

Not one is an ableist slur either, except maybe for impotence. Good guy Hexbear.

[-] jack@hexbear.net 25 points 1 year ago

Impotent can definitely refer to how political useless and ineffective liberalism is without any medical connotation.

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[-] kleeon@hexbear.net 47 points 1 year ago

yelling out names of logical fallacies while waving my magic wand around

[-] jungekatz@hexbear.net 41 points 1 year ago

I mean where is the lie ? Call a spade a spade ??

[-] CannotSleep420@lemmygrad.ml 32 points 1 year ago

The lie is that the insults are used in place of an actual argument.

[-] forcequit@hexbear.net 26 points 1 year ago

you want the source thread, not this one

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[-] came_apart_at_Kmart@hexbear.net 36 points 1 year ago

"Your Honor, the defendant told me, to my face, that I was a 'shithead'. Then the teenagers laughed at me, pulled my pants down and tickled me until I pissed in my own face, had diarrhea and shuddered with pleasure."

[-] SnAgCu@hexbear.net 36 points 1 year ago

I wonder which argument did this poster lose to cause this incredible post

Imagine if they spent half as much effort actually learning history as they did whining about hexbears telling them to learn history

[-] FourteenEyes@hexbear.net 36 points 1 year ago

Maybe stop being all of those things then? shrug-outta-hecks

[-] MerryChristmas@hexbear.net 31 points 1 year ago

We do love calling people names. We love calling people pronouns. Hell we just love calling people, full stop.

[-] ikilledtheradiostar@hexbear.net 28 points 1 year ago

You can tell which one they most identity with

[-] CloutAtlas@hexbear.net 26 points 1 year ago

Please refer to the time Abe Lincoln bullied a political opponent to tears with ad hominem attacks during an official debate.

[-] PaulSmackage@hexbear.net 22 points 1 year ago

But make the tagline the same size as the washington post one

[-] Mindfury@hexbear.net 21 points 1 year ago

i'm absolutely begging for the linkeroni

(i know this isn't the dunk tank, but this is amazing)

[-] Mindfury@hexbear.net 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

dw found it

also, unfortunately i recognise this "person" and their posts

[-] forcequit@hexbear.net 27 points 1 year ago

They've been going for two weeks lol

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[-] Big_Bob@hexbear.net 21 points 1 year ago

Hexbear told me my mother smells of elderberries and to fart in my general direction.

[-] ReadFanon@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The internetbro logical fallacy revolution and its consequences has been a disaster for human discourse.

This is not a formal debate so drop the pretense already.

Also note that labelling a Nazi sympathiser as "a defender of fascism" is not an ad hominem, that's a description. Just because you personally object to the label doesn't mean that therefore it's a logical fallacy.

Also note that there's no generally logical proposition in the statement of opinions. "I don't like mint icecream" could very well be considered an ad hominem against mint icecream by these clowns because anything they disagree with which is a statement of opinion counts as a logical fallacy in their eyes.

But if there's a layperson's discussion going on then the notion that the "debate" is focused on a particular topic and all responses must find themselves within the limits of that topic is, frankly, nonsense.

Yes, introducing your dislike for mint icecream to a discussion about politics is irrelevant but there's absolutely no need to use fancy logic terms like "red herring fallacy" when you can just say "that's not relevant" instead.

Likewise, throwing out a term like "ad hominem" is just a description and it's as useful as saying "that's an insult". Except it's way more pretentious and it provides the person who deploys that term with an inflated sense of purpose and logical correctness that saying "You insulted me" or "I disagree with your opinion" does not.

Imagine if these people decided to lose the pretense and got called a nerd then just responded with "that's an insult". Like, yeah, bro - congrats on figuring that out all by yourself, I guess?

The sooner that people lose "ad hominem" from their vocabulary, the better imo.
(Although on the other hand it's a wonderful red flag for indicating that you're dealing with a pompous, self-aggrandising dickbag who wants to exert complete control over the discussion, so maybe that term actually does have a good use for general discussions after all...)

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