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[-] Streetlights@lemmy.world 57 points 6 months ago

Give a knighthood to whoever blasted "things can only get better" during Rishi's announcement.

[-] br3d@lemmy.world 13 points 6 months ago

I'm not sure people in this thread get the significance of the song. If they don't remember 1997, they might simply be taking the song title literally

[-] Streetlights@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

Well, now you've just made me feel old.

[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 2 points 6 months ago

The sight of middle aged MPs cringe dancing to that is still indelibly seared into my brain...

[-] li10@feddit.uk 8 points 6 months ago

Can they tho 🤔

Personally, I’m optimistic that things will get worse at a slower rate.

[-] Tagger@lemmy.world 13 points 6 months ago

You've just been made very pessimistic by 14 years of Tory government

[-] Streetlights@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Isnt getting worse at a slow rate better than getting worse at a fast rate?

[-] xkbx@startrek.website 6 points 6 months ago

Using the roman numeral system, I’d say we’re currently at an I-rate

[-] li10@feddit.uk 4 points 6 months ago

Yeah, that’s what I’m optimistic for.

[-] Aux@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

I mean after Liz Rishi is a bloody angel.

[-] Beaver@lemmy.ca 37 points 6 months ago

Hopefully we can have one less conservative government in the world. Down with transphobes.

[-] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 34 points 6 months ago

It'll just be a slightly less conservative government, but I'll take it.

[-] christophski@feddit.uk 13 points 6 months ago

Get labour in then protest their most right wing views

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[-] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 10 points 6 months ago

I have some bad news for you about the transphobes

[-] HumanPenguin@feddit.uk 24 points 6 months ago

In power from 22 oct 22 till today.

And this is the first announcement he has made, that he actually has public support for.

[-] AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net 22 points 6 months ago

I wish I could feel hopeful for this.

Doubts about Starmer's Labour aside, even if I had complete trust in an incoming Labour government, I'd be worried; it's a lot easier to destroy than it is to build, and something I fear is if in 5 years, progress has been made, but the amount of readily visible progress is small enough that the Tories go "see, we told you that Labour couldn't be trusted with the economy" and slide back into government.

Probably not helping is seeing the news from the US also gearing up for an election — it doesn't feel like it's been very long at all since we were all relieved that Biden won out over Trump, but now here we are again.

[-] thehatfox@lemmy.world 13 points 6 months ago

My worst fear is not a Tory comeback but a lurch in more radical and populist direction if Labour fail to start visibly turning things around after the first term. It's unrelated to expect many if any first term miracles considering the state the country is in, but people are going to need to feel some sort of progress to stop the frustration boiling over.

[-] FatLegTed@piefed.social 5 points 6 months ago

This is going to be a real problem - because the Daily Mail and such will be screaming that all the problems are still there 6 months later - never mind that they've taken 14 years to put in place. People like my ignorant and racist sister in law, whose answer to the issue of migrants is to 'Just shoot them'. These people really do just open their mouths and let the bile pour out. She'd never vote Labour as they are too common. Unfortunately there are plenty like her about. Totally selfish and only concerned with themselves and showing off to their friends.

[-] Elkenders@feddit.uk 5 points 6 months ago

I'd put money on this happening. My mum and dad can't wait for an excuse to put their trust back in the Tories. All it'll take is a few headlines.

[-] blackn1ght@feddit.uk 14 points 6 months ago

Thank fucking Christ. That's sooner than I expected too!

[-] HumanPenguin@feddit.uk 9 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Your not alone. Even tory backbenchers were expecting autumn time.

Seems they think, the recent inflation news is the best chance they have. Especially given how desperate he is to claim the usual labour bad on econ. Dispite 14 years of failing to get it right.

[-] thehatfox@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

I was starting to think they would dither their way into defaulting to January at the rate they had been going.

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[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 6 points 6 months ago

We will have our independence day!

[-] fubarx@lemmy.ml 12 points 6 months ago

Non-Brit questions:

  • What does the dissolution of Parliament mean as far as legislating until July 4th? Does everything come to a screeching halt?
  • When do MPs get to head out to campaign?
  • Does the dissolution affect the House of Lords in any way?
[-] thehatfox@lemmy.world 21 points 6 months ago

Parliament will be dissolved on 30th May. When the Commons is dissolved all business is ended and MPs stop being MPs. When the Lords dissolves business ends but Lords still remain Lords.

The government still remains and ministers keep their positions, but is effectively only a caretaker for the pre-election period, and cannot enact new polices except in exceptional circumstances.

The campaign period proper starts once Parliament is dissolved. Parties will publish manifestos shortly after, TV debates may be organised etc.

[-] fubarx@lemmy.ml 8 points 6 months ago

Thank you! That gives them a week to enact any last-minute laws.

In the U.S., this 'lame duck' period goes from November until January of each election year: https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/what-happens-lame-duck-session-congress

[-] HumanPenguin@feddit.uk 9 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Yeah you may have heard the term. Parliment is sovereign. It literally means there is never a true lame duck.

While parliment is dissolved. And technically the MPs are no longer MPs. Government can act but only in a clear emergency. The act they can always make. Is to request the king to make temporary laws.

Its never happened since the restoration. But technically the point of our constitutional Monarchy is the king passes power back and forth when parliment is opened and devolved.

In the event russia attacked or something else between 30th May and the end of the election count. Likely 5th or 6th. Sunak can operate government as normal. But would ask the king to enact any change in law. And parliment would be opened soonest once everything is sorted.

[-] ajoebyanyothername@lemmy.world 11 points 6 months ago
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[-] j4yt33@feddit.de 6 points 6 months ago

About fucking time

[-] HexesofVexes@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

Oh thank god... I thought he'd draw it out even longer.

[-] Hossenfeffer@feddit.uk 3 points 6 months ago
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