@dgerard

I contacted the reporter via her website, to ask what motivated the story when the Guardian just wrote about them last year, and if the couple's PR rep (who I assume exists) had instigated it.

I don't really expect to hear back but it sure would be interesting to know.

That's because there is no "movement" and the whole thing is a stunt to promote the ideas of the least thoughtful of all the unthoughtful people who nonetheless consider themselves intellectuals.

Honestly any day the Guardian isn't publishing transphobia wearing a feminism mask is a good day for them.

I love how the journalist just reprints their reskinned Great Replacement theory at face value.

And importing people from Africa to support a mostly non-working white population – because you didn’t put in labour to support non-working white people – has really horrible optics.

Ah, so the reason you’re concerned about falling white birth rates and don’t want immigration is because it’s racist to allow “people from Africa” to immigrate to your country. Got it.

I appreciate that the journalist was shocked by the bad parenting but I’d have appreciated a little more fact checking on the naked racist conspiracies.

What’s that now? Neo-alt-right?

I assume it is neoreaction. Not sure if you are a recent poster here, or were aware of sneerclub when it was on reddit but we talked about NRx there every now and then. (Not a fan).

I don't know if the Collins are NRx, what I do know is that neoreactionary podcasters love the Collins. (According to a quick google search). And bonus for David Gerard, Grimes has reached out to the Collins source is the grimezs long post on Grimes her links to all this shit

This is part of a whole thing where the journalist keeps presenting their framing without question. Is it “allow their neighbours to live in the second house rent free, in exchange for childcare” or is it “they have unpaid live-in nannies in a staff apartment”? Do they “give everything they can spare to charity” or are they landlords who own property they don’t live in? Is she wearing a corset and chemise from etsy because it’s practical, or because these weirdos have put on staged cosplay performances for every journalist who’s ever interviewed them, and you’re no exception?

Wow, these people have not planned anything at all. They're going to homeschool all 7+ kids? And go into politics, a job that infamously has long, unsociable hours?

Jesus Christ I thought you were making a joke.

But you're not.

The imminent arrival of their fourth child, a girl they plan to name Industry Americus Collins

The combination of the mother being all "I got raised by hippies, which I hated so I am doing the opposite", "we are very rational", " our kids will obviously be like us, only better". Can't they put these pieces together?

Well, with that many children, at least one will write a book about how their childhood sucked.

Chapter 1, I am so cold When I think about my childhood, I think about freezing...

Chapter 12, Stop hitting me dad!

And so on.

After that, he lived at a private boarding school

expenses covered by a family trust

My childhood was hard

oh no trust fund baby had hard childhood

however, it's nowhere as hard as their children childhood is gonna be

These people are just reacting to their trauma and acting like they’ve found some magical answer to life being hard.

Big Kissinger energy

@Amoeba_Girl

Guardian failed the “don't promote these specific cunts for 14 months challenge”

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2023/apr/20/pro-natalism-babies-global-population-genetics

they definitely missed out on naming two of the daughers ursa minor maior and ursa maior minor.

Im also annoyed at how much words are written about the Collins. Stop promoting these doofuses. (They have come up in sneerclub before)

Apologies. First time poster, all that stuff.

The corporal punishment thing is a weirdly Anglophone obsession -- assaulting (sorry, "smacking") your kids has been a crime here since 1977 and the kids seem to be alright as well as having the bonus of being less likely to have grown up surrounded by violence and the threat of violence. In 7 years here I've seen exactly one person hit a child in public (looked a lot like a visiting grandma from elsewhere) and it came as a real shock. The more the Collins types (and, of course, fundie types) try to justify this as "normal" the less normal it appears to everyone else.

I mean in this article they claim that girlfriend will be able to have seven kids, spaced a year and a half apart, and homeschool them, and still keep her career. They're obviously not too concerned about contradictory statements.

Oh wait I got this, how about the bit about the oldest child taking care of the younger ones. They get to grow up fast and spend their precious time being an unpaid babysitter instead of actually being a kid pretty much ruining their childhood.

Or how about the bit where the parents deliberately have so many kids gambling one will get rich and take care of them when their old. These natalists are delusional and I actually know a few irl that have said or done these and frankly its fuckin disgusting to me

It's already here. I was sterilized (I don't want kids, have a SEVERE genetic disability that I'd passn on, can't afford my own house, like to sleep in, enjoy traveling, think the world is overpopulated enough, etc) and get attacked by men and women anytime I mention it.

I've apparently

• "destroyed my body"
• "Fucked up the only reason women exist"
• "Chosen to die alone"
• "Failed my country and family"
• "Made a selfish decision"
• "Chosen to be a slut instead of a mom"
• "Become useless to any man"

The list goes on. If I change my mind, I'll adopt. There's nearly 400,000 children in the US foster care system and that number has nearly DOUBLED since Roe v Wade...

The entire "the world is running out of people" meme is just an attempt to find a non-religious rationale to limit reproductive choice.

Yes. Alongside a resurgence in anti-lgbt stuff.