Legend of Zelda?

Playing games on pc and getting xbox button hints while using a Playstation or Nintendo controller is a special kind of frustrating. Like anything else, you get used to it, but I think I would like the position based hints you describe a lot better.

I think it’s all the Switch games, or most of them. It’s part of the system font. It’s at least any game that can be played with a single joy-con because the traditional layout doesn’t match the labels in that configuration.

Nintendo is generally good at this part of design. Back in the GameCube days, all the buttons were different shapes, sizes and were easy to tell apart by feel, so they just used icons of the buttons. In the N64 days, X, Y and Z were all triggers in different positions, and the C buttons had arrows on them so you could tell by the icon which was which.

Most Nintendo Switch games do this. I think part of why is you might be using a pair of Joy-cons or a Nintendo brand controller with the Nintendo ABXY layout, 3rd party controller with the Xbox ABXY layout, a sideways joycon with ABXY buttons but rotated 90 degrees including the labels, or a sideways joycon with unlabeled buttons.

There’s no way for the game to consistently the way your controller is labeled, but it can know which of the 4 buttons needs to be pressed based on location.

This then led to bluff glancing at the walls before betting.

God, I love it when things like this start to develop when playing games with friends. Especially when it's a newer player, or maybe even the quiet person that starts doing it - the first time you catch on to someone pulling a trick like this is the best possible feeling of, "you son of a bitch!"

Leans over to neighbor, “hey I don’t think Tommy is very bright, he keeps looking up at the cheat sheet for a pair every time”

First thing I did on my steam deck was to change it to Nintendo layout haha

anytime I switch systems it takes too long to remember the 4 right thumb buttons

Yeah I really don't understand why the hell they have to make it so different. Why do they need to distinguish themselves in this way? All it does is fuck up our gaming experience.

I used to call it the Zelda machine, but now that factorio is on Switch, I guess that isnt quite true any more.

I go between PS4 and a switch pro control often, and it's not that they all use the letters / symbols for different buttons, it's that Xbox and Sony agree what button position is used for what as default, enter, back, etc.

Nintendo breaks that symmetry, and put the enter button on A, so when I go to watch a movie on playstation I'm constantly exiting the menu because that position is O, the back button for Playstation.

A better question would be why Microsoft went with a nonstandard layout when they designed the Xbox controller. Nintendo had been using the A-to-the-right layout since 1990.

I believe because because they consider the outside buttons to be more natural to press first, then you work your way in.

Even starting with the NES controller, button A was primary and on the outside.

Division between console camps. "No, mine is the right layout!" Frustration when switching, creating a soft lock in effect.

I was thinking, "I need this for the first 2 hours every time I switch to/from a Nintendo game."

dodecahedron

Dodecahedron? Don't PS controllers use Square, Circle, Triangle, and X?

No they're not. The Nintendo button layout has A/B and X/Y swapped from the Xbox one, and she's clearly playing Super Mario Oddysey

Looks like Mario Odyssey

to be fair, nintendo set that standard before both microsoft and sony were even in the console gaming space.

Tbf hasn’t the ABXY layout of nintendo consoles been consistent since the snes days, predating xbox? Unless your argument is that you wish they flipped it for american consoles a long time ago or something.

Also that interpretation behind the ab/xy difference kinda blows my mind lol

Nintendo set the standard in 1990 with the SNES. Microsoft broke it in 2001 with the Xbox.