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[-] Rolive@discuss.tchncs.de 198 points 1 year ago

It's Afrikaans, not Dutch. It's close though. We can understand written Afrikaans.

[-] rtxn@lemmy.world 62 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

For non-speakers, it's kind of like reading Scots as a monolingual English speaker. https://sco.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scots_leid

[-] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 28 points 1 year ago

Did they ever fix the issue that an American teen used a hilariously bad interpretation of the Scots language to write thousands of articles on the Scots wiki?

https://slate.com/technology/2020/09/scots-wikipedia-language-american-teenager.html

https://old.reddit.com/r/Scotland/comments/ig9jia/ive_discovered_that_almost_every_single_article/

[-] Ultraviolet@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Only partially, unfortunately. There aren't a lot of people who speak full on Scots, the majority of Scotland speaks a dialect of English with a handful of Scots vocabulary now. It's an endangered language.

[-] Rolive@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 year ago

Funny. If you say the words out loud they're much easier to understand.

[-] samus12345@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

It's like reading a Nac Mac Feegle speaking.

[-] Boxscape@lemmy.sdf.org 35 points 1 year ago

It's Afrikaans, not Dutch.

Hitler dood? Lekker bru!

[-] No_Change_Just_Money@feddit.de 5 points 1 year ago

Would you translate the bold text below the subtitles?

[-] mononomi@feddit.nl 19 points 1 year ago

Alright this is what I understand as a dutchie

Hitler is dead and Dönitz is now the leader in Germany, a British newspaper writes today: "Never before in history has the perspective of peace been so ?? made a possibility of the long war"

The sentence structure is pretty confusing to me and I don't know some words

[-] Rolive@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 1 year ago

Thanks you beat me to it.

Yeah it's something like how abrupt the change of prospect is from an extended war to peace.

[-] Xanthrax@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Obviously, he's so dood.

[-] rinkink@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Crude translation, trying to keep the word order the same.

Hitler's death and Dönitz 's acceptance of rule in Germany led a British paper to write: "Never before in the history has the prospect of peace so suddenly changed to the possibility of a protracted war."

[-] lugal@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 year ago

That explains the neutral tone. It's something important far away.

[-] Aceticon@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Also that newspaper is called "The Fatherland".

It's a pretty good hint of where they stand in the whole Left-Right political spectrum.

[-] lugal@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago

Which is super weird in it self. I mean, do South African white people call their colonist nation their "Fatherland"?

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[-] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago
[-] Cagi@lemmy.ca 34 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Fun fact:

In Dutch, two o's make a long o sound. Dode. "oe" makes the "oo" sound.

[-] lauha@lemmy.one 4 points 1 year ago

What is "oo" sound if not long o sound? Sorry, not natives englishian.

[-] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Dutch "rood" is pronounced like English "road".

Dutch "moed" is pronounced like English "mood".

[-] flicker@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

This is wild to me as an English speaker.

[-] abbadon420@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

It's simple:

  • One o makes a short o-sound,

  • two o's makes a long o-sound

[-] cinabongo@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago

Similarly, if a Dutch person ever asks you to "kiss my moist cunt" or (kies mijn mooiste kant), don't take offence.

[-] norimee@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

"Look at the sea" in finish (katso merta) means "dick shit" in Italian (cazzo merda).

[-] fluckx@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

I am stealing this.

[-] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

I mean if it's moist I'm doing something right. Right?

[-] GladiusB@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Depends. Is there any money involved?

[-] nightwatch_admin@feddit.nl 16 points 1 year ago

That’s not Dutch. Related, Frysian or Afrikaans but not Dutch.

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Hitler so dood

[-] SexualPolytope@lemmy.sdf.org 11 points 1 year ago

Truly one of the doods of all time.

[-] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 1 year ago

I mean celebrating isnt gonna get you out of a post war collapse. So good job by the dutch?

[-] Aganim@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

So good job by the dutch?

Yes, if this was Dutch. It isn't though, looks like Afrikaans to me.

[-] dodgy_bagel@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm not seeing any double-A's.

I think this might be an AI mockup of faux German.

Edit:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liechtensteiner_Vaterland

[-] Aganim@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

This doesn't even faintly resemble German, so I doubt that.

[-] artvabas@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

The play was not fair, in Dutch: de plee was niet ver, means the toilet was not far away😏

[-] The2500@thelemmy.club 5 points 1 year ago

Who is saying English is bad? You save yourself so much trouble not having to like genderize all the words.

[-] lord_ryvan@ttrpg.network 14 points 1 year ago

I offer you Indonesian, which has a word for “he/she/they/it” (dia) but no words for “he” or “she”. Indonesian has words for older sibling (kakak) and younger sibling (adik) but it's rare to specify the sibling's gender. It ever has rude slang for “primary reproductive organ” (titis, among many others) without specifying wether it concerns a vagina or penis. TL;DR Indonesia is based.

[-] lars@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 1 year ago

Oh wow just like Turkish. Probably little sexism in Indonesia and none in Turkey, right?

[-] lord_ryvan@ttrpg.network 6 points 1 year ago

Nah sexism across the board in both from what I've seen, but the language is dope

On top of that the grammar is far more regular than whatever bullshit the European languages have. The ber- prefix is always ber-. If you are talking about the past you say sudah instead of juggling with the verbs. No sing-sang-sung do-did-done and all that irregular stuff.

[-] pumpkinseedoil@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

Gender and cases allow you to write much more complex sentences, and make long and complex sentences easy to understand.

[-] Agrivar@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago
[-] pumpkinseedoil@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

Read some speeches from Cicero for example (in Latin). Latin has six cases and three genders so while Cicero's sentences often consist of multiple sentences and sub sentences with beautifully spread out sentence structures they're still very clear and easy to understand (with sufficient Latin skills). Same for all modern languages with cases and genders (like German).

In English you only have one gender more or less (you do have he she it but in terms of referring to previous words (which, etc.) or linking attributes you only have one) and the case solely depends on where the word stands in the structure (leading to a fixed sentence structure and limited possibilities to refer back to previous words, so you have to repeat them more commonly).

I mean this is subjective. Asian languages let you play with words freely. When you don't need agreement of verbs and subjects and nouns, you get to make a lot of puns and other kinds of wordplay. See Malay pantuns.

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