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[-] SacredExcrement@hexbear.net 90 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Even the US' intelligence apparatus is a bunch of Putin shills now

But seriously, no shit lmao. Did libs really think Putin was gonna try and pull an Ögedei Khan and try to take Europe?

[-] Jobasha@hexbear.net 80 points 2 years ago

They literally think the Russian brainpan is incapable of comprehending democracy due to them assimilating Mongolo-Asiatic authoritarianism genes in the time they were under Mongol rule so probably, yeah.

[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 62 points 2 years ago

I heard literal this take ex cathedra in university in Poland. 30 years ago.

[-] Jobasha@hexbear.net 44 points 2 years ago

Damn. I haven't heard this one in uni but I had a professor who was casually peddling Spengler and some other sus figures.

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[-] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 64 points 2 years ago

I particularly love the fact that libs simultaneously believe that Russia is on a brink of collapse and about to roll over Europe as soon as it's done with Ukraine. They see no contradiction there.

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[-] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 60 points 2 years ago

Did libs really think Putin was gonna try and pull an Ögedei Khan and try to take Europe?

Yes. You should see the bullshit the European media keeps shoveling.

[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 34 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I barely even read any Polish media since 2022, they went into high gear of being unbearable and keeps at it ever since.

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[-] AcidSmiley@hexbear.net 41 points 2 years ago

Did libs really think Putin was gonna try and pull an Ögedei Khan and try to take Europe?

They did unironically think that, yes.

[-] Sasuke@hexbear.net 38 points 2 years ago

Did libs really think Putin was gonna try and pull an Ögedei Khan and try to take Europe

they definitely do here in europe

[-] pelletbucket@lemm.ee 34 points 2 years ago

in February of 2022 Biden said that he was trying to reestablish the Soviet Union.

[-] Tomorrow_Farewell@hexbear.net 37 points 2 years ago

He has also said that he is proud to have been the first black woman to serve with a black president.

In general, I would not associate Biden with the word 'intelligence'.

And yeah, no, if Putin was trying to reestablish the USSR, he would be much better than he is. An anti-colonial power that massively improves its people's lives? Sign me up.

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[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 32 points 2 years ago

Ögedei didn't even tried to take Europe, it was a really big scout party which casually obliterated every army they encountered, arrived at Hungary, seen the pushta and considered staying because it reminded them of home and then went back because khan died and new one had to be elected. In the meantime collective Europe was thrown into a state of abject terror not known since Attila the Hun. But of course as soon as it passed, islamophobia kicked in, they started to blabber about Prester John and tried to use Mongols against muslims.

[-] Flaps@hexbear.net 31 points 2 years ago

Its one of the excuses they use to keep sending weaponry

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[-] BynarsAreOk@hexbear.net 86 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Still not as embarrassing as angular-merkel admitting the Minsk agreements were all just to buy time for Ukraine.

The original narratives about Ukraine no longer matter, the only thing left in the collective consciousness is Ukraine is a democracy therefore the war is about "western values". The good thing is since then even a good part liberals don't care about that anymore, its impossible to manufacture a narrative that Ukraine is winning right now, at best they "resisting" evil Putler and Zelensky does nothing but beg for more aid.

[-] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 68 points 2 years ago

The Western media's admission of the deceitful nature of their narrative exposed liberals, who mindlessly parrot the same talking points despite the revelations, as nothing more than gullible buffoons.

[-] NapoleonBlownApart@hexbear.net 67 points 2 years ago

I don't think liberals could have had a worse week. The cracks in their dome are apparent and aren't going away. Some people are checking out, some people are saying "enough" to the constant stream of bullshit right to their faces. /R/politics is a hoot right now.

But do they change anything about their approach? Of course not.

[-] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 38 points 2 years ago

I expect that at some point the whole house of cards is going to come crashing down.

[-] PoY@lemmygrad.ml 49 points 2 years ago

i might have thought so a few years back but now i feel like there is no end to their ability to mental contortion and gymnastics

[-] SeventyTwoTrillion@hexbear.net 41 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I mean, for them to stop believing in their ideology, they'd have to find something else to believe in. What would that even be? Most of them are probably innoculated against ideas left of Mussolini due to the constant government programming happening on reddit, so they'd either become anarchobidenists and believe 95% of the same things by saying to themselves "anarchism is when you hate authoritarian governments (read: governments who are resistant to being totally rolled over by American monopolies) and love western democracies. who the fuck is kropotkin? gelderloos? I'm listening to a 3 hour video essay by a breadtuber"

or, I guess, they'd turn even further conservative and/or libertarian and start frothing at the mouth about the federal reserve and age of consent laws

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[-] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 34 points 2 years ago

I'd argue that mainstream libs represent the segment of the population that still hasn't been significantly affected materially. They still have their jobs, they can pay their bills, and there really hasn't been any dramatic change in their lifestyle. They also tend to stay in their bubble avoiding interaction with people who are struggling. This segment of the population is rapidly shrinking though, and we can see them starting to freaking out that their voices are increasingly challenged nowadays. It's a huge shock for them that their narrative can't spread unchallenged.

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[-] itappearsthat@hexbear.net 76 points 2 years ago

No, it was always this way. We always knew this. The way the government is admitting things are is the same as what they've been saying all along. Your left-wing views always make you say paranoid stuff like this. This is not an unexpected departure from the official line. The only people who were trying to scare us about how Europe could be invaded next were misinformed marginal figures, not the actual authority figures who always had a reassuring firm grip and level gaze toward reality. If it were really a big change then someone would make a big deal about it, and I don't see anybody making a fuss.

[-] pelletbucket@lemm.ee 60 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

lol who told you that

"He has much larger ambitions than Ukraine. He wants to, in fact, reestablish the former Soviet Union. That's what this is about." -President Joe Biden, February 24, 2022.

[-] emizeko@hexbear.net 68 points 2 years ago

he trotted this out at the disastrous debate last week too. blows my mind the kind of bullshit people can tolerate

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[-] emizeko@hexbear.net 42 points 2 years ago
[-] Wertheimer@hexbear.net 38 points 2 years ago

Reminds me of the Bush defenders who pretended his administration never said Saddam had a hand in Sept. 11.

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[-] WhatDoYouMeanPodcast@hexbear.net 70 points 2 years ago

The shit about world conqueror Putin reached my, decidedly non American lib parents. This shit is bananas

[-] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 39 points 2 years ago
[-] Rx_Hawk@hexbear.net 68 points 2 years ago

If you use an ounce of critical thinking it was always clear NATO wants a war with Russia, not the other way around.

[-] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 55 points 2 years ago

To be fair, if you use an ounce of critical thinking then you stop being a liberal.

[-] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 61 points 2 years ago

Yeah, no shit. These pathetic eu-cool vassals don’t care though, they’ll keep throwing money down the pit of “increased defense spending because NATO wants it”.

[-] Xx_Aru_xX@hexbear.net 60 points 2 years ago

Yogothos post with 100+ comments, hell yeah

[-] nat_turner_overdrive@hexbear.net 59 points 2 years ago

I can't wait for the NAFO crowd to call the pentagon russian shills

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[-] sharedburdens@hexbear.net 32 points 2 years ago

More like the Niu York Times

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