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[-] SacredExcrement@hexbear.net 89 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Even the US' intelligence apparatus is a bunch of Putin shills now

But seriously, no shit lmao. Did libs really think Putin was gonna try and pull an Ögedei Khan and try to take Europe?

[-] Jobasha@hexbear.net 80 points 4 months ago

They literally think the Russian brainpan is incapable of comprehending democracy due to them assimilating Mongolo-Asiatic authoritarianism genes in the time they were under Mongol rule so probably, yeah.

[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 62 points 4 months ago

I heard literal this take ex cathedra in university in Poland. 30 years ago.

[-] Jobasha@hexbear.net 44 points 4 months ago

Damn. I haven't heard this one in uni but I had a professor who was casually peddling Spengler and some other sus figures.

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[-] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 64 points 4 months ago

I particularly love the fact that libs simultaneously believe that Russia is on a brink of collapse and about to roll over Europe as soon as it's done with Ukraine. They see no contradiction there.

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[-] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 60 points 4 months ago

Did libs really think Putin was gonna try and pull an Ögedei Khan and try to take Europe?

Yes. You should see the bullshit the European media keeps shoveling.

[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 34 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I barely even read any Polish media since 2022, they went into high gear of being unbearable and keeps at it ever since.

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[-] AcidSmiley@hexbear.net 41 points 4 months ago

Did libs really think Putin was gonna try and pull an Ögedei Khan and try to take Europe?

They did unironically think that, yes.

[-] Sasuke@hexbear.net 38 points 4 months ago

Did libs really think Putin was gonna try and pull an Ögedei Khan and try to take Europe

they definitely do here in europe

[-] pelletbucket@lemm.ee 34 points 4 months ago

in February of 2022 Biden said that he was trying to reestablish the Soviet Union.

[-] Tomorrow_Farewell@hexbear.net 37 points 4 months ago

He has also said that he is proud to have been the first black woman to serve with a black president.

In general, I would not associate Biden with the word 'intelligence'.

And yeah, no, if Putin was trying to reestablish the USSR, he would be much better than he is. An anti-colonial power that massively improves its people's lives? Sign me up.

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[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 32 points 4 months ago

Ögedei didn't even tried to take Europe, it was a really big scout party which casually obliterated every army they encountered, arrived at Hungary, seen the pushta and considered staying because it reminded them of home and then went back because khan died and new one had to be elected. In the meantime collective Europe was thrown into a state of abject terror not known since Attila the Hun. But of course as soon as it passed, islamophobia kicked in, they started to blabber about Prester John and tried to use Mongols against muslims.

[-] Flaps@hexbear.net 31 points 4 months ago

Its one of the excuses they use to keep sending weaponry

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[-] BynarsAreOk@hexbear.net 86 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Still not as embarrassing as angular-merkel admitting the Minsk agreements were all just to buy time for Ukraine.

The original narratives about Ukraine no longer matter, the only thing left in the collective consciousness is Ukraine is a democracy therefore the war is about "western values". The good thing is since then even a good part liberals don't care about that anymore, its impossible to manufacture a narrative that Ukraine is winning right now, at best they "resisting" evil Putler and Zelensky does nothing but beg for more aid.

[-] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 68 points 4 months ago

The Western media's admission of the deceitful nature of their narrative exposed liberals, who mindlessly parrot the same talking points despite the revelations, as nothing more than gullible buffoons.

[-] NapoleonBlownApart@hexbear.net 67 points 4 months ago

I don't think liberals could have had a worse week. The cracks in their dome are apparent and aren't going away. Some people are checking out, some people are saying "enough" to the constant stream of bullshit right to their faces. /R/politics is a hoot right now.

But do they change anything about their approach? Of course not.

[-] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 38 points 4 months ago

I expect that at some point the whole house of cards is going to come crashing down.

[-] PoY@lemmygrad.ml 49 points 4 months ago

i might have thought so a few years back but now i feel like there is no end to their ability to mental contortion and gymnastics

[-] SeventyTwoTrillion@hexbear.net 41 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I mean, for them to stop believing in their ideology, they'd have to find something else to believe in. What would that even be? Most of them are probably innoculated against ideas left of Mussolini due to the constant government programming happening on reddit, so they'd either become anarchobidenists and believe 95% of the same things by saying to themselves "anarchism is when you hate authoritarian governments (read: governments who are resistant to being totally rolled over by American monopolies) and love western democracies. who the fuck is kropotkin? gelderloos? I'm listening to a 3 hour video essay by a breadtuber"

or, I guess, they'd turn even further conservative and/or libertarian and start frothing at the mouth about the federal reserve and age of consent laws

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[-] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 34 points 4 months ago

I'd argue that mainstream libs represent the segment of the population that still hasn't been significantly affected materially. They still have their jobs, they can pay their bills, and there really hasn't been any dramatic change in their lifestyle. They also tend to stay in their bubble avoiding interaction with people who are struggling. This segment of the population is rapidly shrinking though, and we can see them starting to freaking out that their voices are increasingly challenged nowadays. It's a huge shock for them that their narrative can't spread unchallenged.

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[-] itappearsthat@hexbear.net 76 points 4 months ago

No, it was always this way. We always knew this. The way the government is admitting things are is the same as what they've been saying all along. Your left-wing views always make you say paranoid stuff like this. This is not an unexpected departure from the official line. The only people who were trying to scare us about how Europe could be invaded next were misinformed marginal figures, not the actual authority figures who always had a reassuring firm grip and level gaze toward reality. If it were really a big change then someone would make a big deal about it, and I don't see anybody making a fuss.

[-] pelletbucket@lemm.ee 60 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

lol who told you that

"He has much larger ambitions than Ukraine. He wants to, in fact, reestablish the former Soviet Union. That's what this is about." -President Joe Biden, February 24, 2022.

[-] emizeko@hexbear.net 68 points 4 months ago

he trotted this out at the disastrous debate last week too. blows my mind the kind of bullshit people can tolerate

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[-] emizeko@hexbear.net 42 points 4 months ago
[-] Wertheimer@hexbear.net 38 points 4 months ago

Reminds me of the Bush defenders who pretended his administration never said Saddam had a hand in Sept. 11.

[-] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 33 points 4 months ago

We have always been at war with Eurasia

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[-] WhatDoYouMeanPodcast@hexbear.net 70 points 4 months ago

The shit about world conqueror Putin reached my, decidedly non American lib parents. This shit is bananas

[-] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 39 points 4 months ago
[-] Rx_Hawk@hexbear.net 68 points 4 months ago

If you use an ounce of critical thinking it was always clear NATO wants a war with Russia, not the other way around.

[-] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 55 points 4 months ago

To be fair, if you use an ounce of critical thinking then you stop being a liberal.

[-] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 61 points 4 months ago

Yeah, no shit. These pathetic eu-cool vassals don’t care though, they’ll keep throwing money down the pit of “increased defense spending because NATO wants it”.

[-] Xx_Aru_xX@hexbear.net 60 points 4 months ago

Yogothos post with 100+ comments, hell yeah

[-] nat_turner_overdrive@hexbear.net 59 points 4 months ago

I can't wait for the NAFO crowd to call the pentagon russian shills

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[-] sharedburdens@hexbear.net 32 points 4 months ago

More like the Niu York Times

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