It's mid, yeah. Which is horrifying to say due to all the labor that went into it. The ultimate result is mid.

I bounced off it twice and eventually stuck with it by not trying to play it like MGSV. The game doesn't actually give you any freedom. There is no connection between the missions and free-roam in the overworld. Once I stopped trying to struggle out of the shackles and just treated it like an on-rails movie it got a lot better, if you can handle that. But it is just so long.

The best time I had in the game was hunting to get all the camp & pelt upgrades. Being in some beautiful scenery hunting down particular animals is pleasant, even though the long animations and requirement to constantly bring your pelts back to camp irritated the shit out of me (even with fast travel).

The story just fuckin drags. I got to the end of the main story like a year ago and haven't got around to playing the epilogue yet. The fact that you murder 100 random people every mission in the game but the story is about how you are trying to redeem yourself for beating a dude over some debt is just fucking stupid.

I've given rdr2 two shots and I don't get it. I don't even hate the cut scenes that much, the gameplay just isn't fun.

One of my biggest gamer moments is that I could not get along with Red Dead Redemption to save my life, game was infuriating. Sludgy, heavy, deliberately delayed controls were already kind of annoying to me in GTA IV, I find Red Dead's eepy sleepy cowboi and his even eepier sleepier horse just piss me off. I dropped that shit.

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Red Dead Revolver is my favorite Red Dead

Maybe you should try the first game since it's a bit more cartoony/GTAy in its tone

I'll turn you into a caulifower hombre

It's got a great story. Which is why it's considered awesome.

However yeah... if you aren't doing the story missions the gamplay is way too much like some sort of boring simulator.

Story is good, the sandbox is great, the story missions are total ass

If I didn't finish it and connect to the story yeah I would look back on it as boring trash, but I ended up really liking arthur