Would you like to engage in a polite and collected conversation about the YouTube Shorts UI?
Best I can do is unhinged and passionate, take it or leave it
"Best you can do"? Nah mate, give me the worst
I am with this person ☝️
Same
GET YOUR FEELINGS OUT
You can take the video ID of a shorts URL and paste it into a regular video URL to open it in the less dogshit UI.
Like this: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/fxJicOO_dBw -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxJicOO_dBw
You could make a greasemonkey script that does this automatically.
Oh wow that's such a good idea. I'd probably still just continue not ever watching yt shorts since they are generally really bad but if I ever for some reason need to see one I'd love to be able to actually have video player controls on it.
Or how "watch later" is a playlist that I can't exit out of. I use watch later for hour long videos. I don't want them to auto play
Not even just the fucking UI. I have bad internet so it takes several minutes to watch a short, presuming jt ever works. And it's just shorts. A full video loads no problem, but a short requires so much to even try to start playing.
- go back
- video gone
That part is the worst. I am sick and tired of websites breaking the back button! When I click back it's because I wanted to see the thing that was there before. If I wanted it to just refresh from scratch I would reload the page instead!
It's not just YouTube, by the way. Even Lemmy does that shit too!
That's why I always middle click the links.
...and it drives me insane when it is not real links but some javascript/button/div-with-onclick/etc and middle click won't work
JavaScript frameworks give front end devs enough rope to hang themselves with
I still see websites doing that shit where you click back and end up on a page that redirects you to where you where.
UX has seemingly disappeared across the web unfortunately. Sites just change things for the sake of it.
I'm convinced that almost all of the frustrating shit that corporations dump down on us comes from weekly staff meetings where some suckup climber just wants to tell the boss hey look, we did a shiny new thing! A thing nobody wanted or asked for. Line must go up.
Paycheck justification.
That's literally how google works. They want everyone "innovating" and changing shit constantly. Got a new idea for a thing? Roll with it. Gmail is a different name now? Roll with it! Massive UI change for no.discernable reason? You'd better believe you're gonna be told to roll that out, and someone else will take your place and change shit again shortly.
They don't change things just for the sake of it. They change things so they can point at it and say, "look what I did! I deserve a promotion!"
Value-adders.
Sadly it’s like that because the money people A/B test things to make the numbers go up.
The UX team is almost never to blame for this shit. It’s almost always the monetization folks and PM forcing the UX team’s hand.
You can quit if you don’t like it, but the market for UX is shit right now. So you grumble and draw the dark patterns so you can pay your mortgage while you casually browse LinkedIn for a new gig.
Engineers are successful in spite of management not because of it.
Every engineer of every type in every discipline in my experience
YouTube UI/UX in general is total trash. The Apple TVOS version is probably the worst but I haven’t seen a good one yet.
One of the worst pieces of UX is when you turn on subtitles in the phone app. It will pop-up a banner that says something like “Subtitles turned on” that appears on top of the fucking subtitles and stays there for about 3 hours, making it impossible to read the subtitles. Why is there a banner for this in the first place, I know the subtitles are on. First of all I was the one that turned them on. No need to inform me. Second of all I can tell by the fact that there are subtitles on the screen.
What bloody UX genius came up with that crap?
web 1.0 was superior; it was all downhill from there.
I'm so happy that new pipe is working again.
it's not that they're "completely incapable of making a functional website". It's that making a good website might take traffic away from their apps, where they have more power to collect metrics and bypass ad blocking.
But... you clicked the sponsor link, thereby increasing their profits, right!? Sounds to me like the system is working as intended then:-P.
"Broken as designed."
it's an informational page about sponsors, not the actual sponsored link
they can't even make a dark pattern right
It's not a link to a sponsor. It's a YouTube info page about what it means for a video to have the "Contains sponsorship" tag.
They’re just doing what they’re paid to do.
What they’re paid to do is increase ad exposure to drive as revenue and YT premium subscriptions.
General public UX is a distant tertiary goal, in terms of what’s actually on the Jira board (or whatever they use).
How the hell does getting redirected to this page drive any kind of exposure?
You need to understand that most software engineers are treated like code monkeys these days, and very often get overruled by product people going “idgaf just do the thing I said in the ticket”.
Source: am software engineer, and have been for about a decade and a half
I've raged at the incompetent UX design so many times, like recently when I was trying to add videos to the currently playlist in a certain order, since you can't reorder yourself. The mini player blocked the controls I needed for the last item on the page, but closing the player wiped out the playlist. Cue scream of rage and a few choice words at volume.
I have literally never experienced this.
Pretty much all of google products do that. I have to work with gsuite, and when you go to chat, you click on the person you want to talk to, start typing as you see the box, but then, for whatever reason, it switches to a search on the right, or bring you back to the chat home page.
On YouTube, you see a video, you click on it and then for whatever fucking reason, the video moves right and you click on a dumb ad or a video you don't want to watch. Go back once and the video isn't there anymore.
It's a shit show
The TV UI is worse, especially the search. It only shows 10-12 videos related to what you actually searched. The rest are suggestions.
Not just the web UX unfortunately.
The one that drives me insane is using the touchscreen on my Surface:
I’ve given up on YouTube because of its terrible interface and just use tube archivist + Jellyfin.
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