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[-] jws_shadotak@sh.itjust.works 115 points 3 months ago

I just don't like hyper competitive games. I don't have time to get frustrated.

I like single player games where I have the option to change things I don't like via mods or console commands.

[-] Daxtron2@startrek.website 45 points 3 months ago

Like competitive games, but I don't like overly competitive people. At the end of the day, win or lose, it's still a video game and it should be fun. Competitive games with friends who understand that and don't get tilted can be great fun, even when you're on a losing streak.

[-] Sharkwellington@lemmy.one 9 points 3 months ago

Like competitive games, but I don't like overly competitive people.

I wish competitive games did a better job not only matching people of similar skill, but similar personalities. I know it's just a bunch of pixels and numbers in a screen, why do you keep pairing me with these chuds that have no emotional maturity?

Some games have an option to search for a like-minded party type and it really should be a standard option.

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[-] jws_shadotak@sh.itjust.works 8 points 3 months ago

I don't mind competitive games, just not the crazy competitive ones. TF2 is a great example - fun, casual, PvP. Tarkov is probably my least favorite - hyper competitive, huge losses if you die, big incentive to cheat.

It's a shame that Tarkov is what it is, because I love shooters and it's probably the best of them, mechanics wise.

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[-] AlexWIWA@lemmy.ml 74 points 3 months ago

I used to like multiplayer back when there was a larger community element. Now no one uses their mic and the lobby changes every match so I'm basically just playing against bots anyway.

[-] noobdoomguy8658@feddit.org 19 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Reject modernity, embrace tradition - we'll still be there for you in the arena and boomer shooter crowd, and of course, various Counter-Strike and Team Fortress 2 lobbies.

Come prepared.

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[-] Huschke@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago

This hits hard. I still remember joining the same 3 cs servers and befriending the people there. Good times.

[-] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

Back when servers were hosted and you had a little community of maybe 200 people who would cycle in and out.

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[-] protist@mander.xyz 39 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

This is their personal preference and has nothing to do with their generation

As an "elder Millennial," who do you think drove traffic on WoW, Half Life, Halo, COD, etc?

[-] Gimpydude@lemmynsfw.com 30 points 3 months ago

As a mid-50's genXer I wholeheartedly agree.

[-] The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world 13 points 3 months ago

When I read this, I definitely pictured Gen X or elder millennial first.

[-] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 8 points 3 months ago

There's a reason xennials sometimes get call the Oregon trail gen

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[-] gmtom@lemmy.world 27 points 3 months ago

That's definitely elder millennial more than younger millennial

[-] Ibuthyr@discuss.tchncs.de 16 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Yup, born in 1982 and I feel this way. I'm too old for competitive twitch-shooters (bloody shame that, I used to love them). Most other games are shit for online gaming.

Only thing I ever play online is survival games with my brother, who lives 500 km away from me. It's more of a reason to talk for longer sessions though.

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[-] figjam@midwest.social 6 points 3 months ago

I'm young x and I feel this way as well.

[-] Agent641@lemmy.world 22 points 3 months ago

Sometimes I don't even fight the computer. I just need to expand the factory. And coal is running low so Ill just quickly spin up a nuclear reactor or eight

[-] SkybreakerEngineer@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

The factory must grow.

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[-] LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Honestly never understood the appeal of multiplayer as an older Gen-Z. I guess it's like sports, some people just like the spirit of competition.

[-] conciselyverbose@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Sports are an example of where I need multiplayer. The only way they can make Madden against the computer hard is by making opponents just arbitrarily blow through tackles, making (bad) opposing QBs have magic awareness of the field and silly accuracy, etc.

Playing other humans online allows a level playing field (well, if I didn't use the Patriots this year) and makes the chess match of play calling actually meaningful. I can disguise my looks and mix up play calls and have it actually cause confusion, instead of having the computer complete unaware of context.

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[-] AShadyRaven@lemmy.zip 21 points 3 months ago

that sounds like older millennials to me, tbh

younger millennials grew up on multiplayer and online games, which were widespread and extremely normalized by the time we were old enough

remember, the youngest millenials were 4 to 6 years old in 2000 and the mid 2000s was the big multiplayer boom for the industry

Halo, COD, Gears of War, Counter Strike: Source, Garrysmod, Minecraft, Trackmania, Everquest, World of Warcraft, Left4Dead, Diablo 2, all of these games came out while we were 6 to 14 years old

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[-] nadiaraven@lemmy.world 20 points 3 months ago

I am 36 and my wife is 35. I do not enjoy online multi-player games, and my wife pretty much exclusively plays them. I think this is about people's specific anxieties rather than age.

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[-] Hotspur@lemmy.ml 17 points 3 months ago

That’s fine and all but I’m technically an elder Millenial, and we definitely played online pvp games when I was in high school. I was there for the first counterstrike alpha/beta. My brother and I spent an entire week playing CS one time while my parents were in a trip, 10 hours a day with breaks for pizza. We had a system for sharing play because we only had the one desktop… lol.

We had quake lan parties and even did a quake tourney in our school computer lab because this was before they really sorted out locking the computers down. I feel like tribes and unreal tournament were out pretty quick as well. Quake arena. Half life multiplayer and then CS, day of defeat, etc.

Super toxic online was sorta a thing, but I feel like that didnt mainstream until COD lobbies on consoles, and the advent of voice chat. Or rather most of the servers I played on were specific servers, hosted by people with admins, and while people would misbehave, you generally wanted to not get banned and keep coming back—you knew the other names and such, so that had an ok moderating effect.

[-] NecroParagon@lemm.ee 7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I had some pet birds when I was younger and played in those cesspool cod xbox lobbies. I would end up derailing the vitriol because everyone would be like, "the fuck, is that a bird? Why is there a bird?"

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[-] Stalinwolf@lemmy.ca 16 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Even in Classic WoW I prefer to run solo. I enjoy the presence of other people in the world and in cities, but I have no interested in becoming involved with them unless we need each other to complete a dungeon.

I also like to imagine joining guilds, but my idea of a guild died twenty years ago with the classic era of MMOs. Now being in a guild just means your immersion is forever ruined because you're not allowed to play anymore without participating in the giant fuckfest that is the guild Discord server. Fuck Discord.

If I ever go back I should create a guild of casual loners with kids. We all respect each other's space, provide support as often as we're able, and stay the fuck off of Discord. You get kicked out of the guild if you even mention it. You have to use code if you want to communicate during a dungeon. "My, how the swallows doth fly..", and then quietly log on with four companions and never speak a word of it again. Instant officer status if you have a private Ventrilo server.

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[-] workerONE@lemmy.world 15 points 3 months ago

My number one Gen X trait is having to wear reading glasses to play video games on my PC

[-] Master@lemm.ee 14 points 3 months ago

I dont like competitive games anymore because Markov broke me long before that infamous video came out. People cheat. If the computer cheats at least its doing it to make the game better. People just cheat to be assholes.

Markov... dayz.... cod... just people cheating because they are not playing to have fun. They are ruining peoples games to have fun because they are broken.

[-] Trollception@sh.itjust.works 11 points 3 months ago

No, people cheat to feel better about themselves,

[-] NecroParagon@lemm.ee 6 points 3 months ago

If there's no tangible gain, like prize money or something, then I would agree with that. I can't really wrap my head around the mindset. I can't imagine playing without the satisfaction of besting or proper teamwork.

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[-] Makeitstop@lemmy.world 13 points 3 months ago

I want to do more than win a match, I want to beat the game. You can't beat multiplayer.

Also, singleplayer exists to entertain me personally. I can pause, quit, restart, mod, cheat, and engage in completely counterproductive nonsense whenever I like. I don't have to worry about game balance, fairness and making sure the computer has fun.

Also, while I'm sure a majority of people in multiplayer aren't assholes, it can seem that way when the assholes are the only ones who do anything but silently play the game.

[-] Nuke_the_whales@lemmy.world 13 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Lol I'm currently playing GTA v online solo. I liked it when it was fresh for PS3 and everyone had low grade weapons and cars and was having drive bys. Now people are flying around in flying cars and clown costumes with jetpacks. It's Saints row at that point.

So I decided to give gtao another chance but I'm all by myself just doing taxi missions, pizza deliveries and being a vigilante who attacks drug houses and gangsters but doesn't go after regular folk.

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[-] dudinax@programming.dev 12 points 3 months ago

TIL that millenials are just Gen X nerds.

[-] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 12 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I'm old enough that some of the PC games I grew up playing came on a CD.

In fact, I'm old enough to remember before when CD became a tag for cross dressing on Pornhub!

"You youngins think you're pro gamers‽ I've forgotten more PC games than y'all have put your hands on!"

[-] TSG_Asmodeus@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago

I’m old enough that some of the PC games I grew up playing came on a CD.

As someone who remembers installing games with ten 5 1/4" floppy disks - ouch.

[-] homesnatch@lemm.ee 7 points 3 months ago

Game code came in a magazine, written in BASIC, and you had to transcribe onto the computer... Sometimes multiple pages of it.

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[-] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

Pfft I have 50 plus 5-1/4" disks for an Atari computer from 86... It still works, I fired it up a couple years ago!

[-] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 11 points 3 months ago

One of the coolest arcade moments I can personally recall was in the arcade at Penn Station in New York City. White, 20-something exec in a suit and tie playing Tetris head to head against a little Asian girl.

[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 11 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I like playing online because single player generally becomes too easy. But I also don't play online much anymore because the methods of getting online in a game fucking suck now. Random matchmaking being the only option is so, so, so fucking lame. It makes many people even more toxic than it was in the past. Being banned doesn't mean jack shit since you'll only be permanently banned for cheating (and even that's iffy), so nobody gives two fucks about being civil. Not like you'll ever see any of those players again anyway.

[-] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 11 points 3 months ago

This is a generation thing?

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I feel like the RTS genre has taken such a hit since the 90s heyday. People don't appreciate a good long form slow build Age of Empires or Warcraft 3 match anymore. Its all that twitchy DOTA nonsense.

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[-] bruhbeans@lemmy.ml 11 points 3 months ago

Do all the shit-ass logistics I have to do to get people together for a night out, and then not go out? Or, play with a bunch of strangers, more than a few of whom are insufferable dicks? Hey, gfy on both counts.

[-] QuantumSparkles@sh.itjust.works 10 points 3 months ago

I don’t play a lot of multiplayer, but I love co-op. That’s why my favorite game to play online is Monster Hunter. Lets beef at the computer together

[-] woodgen@lemm.ee 10 points 3 months ago

I'm born in the 80s and play competitive PC games every day. It's just a question if you like competitive games. I also have to emphasize that there are round based competitive games, you don't need to have quick reflexes.

[-] Aztechnology@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago

Yeah ngl sometimes I just get sad when the game offers only multiplayer or the single player mode was designed clearly as an afterthought

[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 9 points 3 months ago

doesnt help that they make them insufferable and toxic

[-] stinerman@midwest.social 8 points 3 months ago

I'm an elder millennial and I've spent maybe 3 or 4 hours playing a game on the internet. I have played probably several days worth of games on an intranet with friends. I'm not interested in playing against people I don't know.

I also have really old hardware so I haven't played online with a friend in maybe 15 years. I'm too busy adulting and newer gear isn't a priority.

[-] don@lemm.ee 8 points 3 months ago

Started out on my Dad’s Atari 2600, and other than PvE WoW and a couple odd games, I never bothered with multiplayer as most apparently know it. The few times I set my flag to PvP in WoW taught me all I needed to know about it.

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[-] AdamBomb@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 3 months ago

This isn’t a generational thing. I’m the same way, and I’m Gen X.

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[-] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 8 points 3 months ago

Im a middle Xer and one on one fighting games were huge. I was not into them but playing against a human was big.

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[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago

Counterstrike and Starcraft used to be my jam. I'm less invested in the more modern games, where everything feels too frenetic and I don't know any of the maps anymore. But I'm also deeply psychologically scared by the old TV show Reboot. You're telling me every time I win a game of Mario Kart, a small neighborhood in the Computer World gets nullified? That's horrible! I would never!

[-] Kadaj21@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

Are you me????

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