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[-] MentallyExhausted@reddthat.com 41 points 11 months ago

I won’t pretend it was a good series, but the incel review bombing was an unnecessary distraction. It had potential and I would have liked to see them correct course and continue the story for another season.

[-] madcat@lemm.ee 17 points 11 months ago

I am not sure there was any real "incel review bombing". Looks more like an excuse of the show's creators. The show was shockingly bad, even from a purely technical standpoint. It felt like a not very good fanfiction. The Kenobi show was the same.

[-] MentallyExhausted@reddthat.com 3 points 11 months ago

There absolutely was.

Anecdotally, a right-wing chud I’m unfortunately acquainted with was pestering me for weeks about it — and he’s not even a Star Wars fan.

[-] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

That entire article is based off coincidental reasoning, and does nothing to connect the review bombing (which did occur) to anything incel or right wing.

Yes, it's absurd that the Acolyte's audience rating on Rotten Tomatoes dropped to below the Holiday special or any other piece of Star Wars media faster than any other piece dropped, but that article itself calls out the most likely reason: people believing that the third episode was retconning the canon of Anakin's "virgin birth" making him the chosen one by implying the twins were also "virgin birth" force babies.

That's kind of a massive, setting breaking retcon, if that was in fact what the show was saying (which still seemed to be the implication as of the end of the series). I can understand why that would draw more ire from fans than any other new piece of Star Wars media under Disney. No outside agitators needed.

[-] janonymous@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

I doubt enough people realized this for this effect. I'm not a huge Star Wars fan myself and this went completely over my head. I don't doubt that dedicated Star Wars fans picked up on it immediately, but most probably only heard of it from these. I see that a lot online. People decide to hate a piece of media even before it airs and then collect reasons for it after the fact.

But that's just my guess, anyway. I haven't watched The Acolyte farther than episode 4 or 5, but not because of anything specific. Just didn't grab me to keep watching. I thought I'll come back to it eventually, but now that I know it's canceled I probably won't.

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

The Kenobi show was a 7/10 and I'll fight anyone that says soft-canonizing Corran Horn wasn't worth 6/10 in and of itself.

[-] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 16 points 11 months ago

It started off very rough, but by the end I thought it was much better than the Bad Batch, the Book of Boba Fett, and Ahsoka. Not everything can be Andor, but this was better than most SW Disney has put out and almost all the Marvel shows they've tried to force feed their audience.

[-] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 19 points 11 months ago

Haters gonna hate, but while I did not enjoy every episode, on the whole I really loved this show.

Yeah, it's a bummer.

[-] madcat@lemm.ee -5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

That speaks more to your lack of taste than the show's quality. The show was laughingly bad. From acting, to directing, even the special effects.

[-] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 6 points 11 months ago

TIL that art can be objectively evaluated and rated. By this person anyway.

[-] madcat@lemm.ee 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Of course it can. There is nothing subjective about bad directing, bad acting, and bad writing. Fools who claim everything is subjective and "every idea is a good idea" are the reason we get shit TV and movies like the Acolyte and Kenobi.

[-] Tikiporch@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

Tell us more about what you think is shit TV and Movies. You only enjoy objectively good media, so there is no downside to sharing.

[-] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 months ago

I am also interested in the media that are objectively excellent

[-] Phil_in_here@lemmy.ca 15 points 11 months ago

I didn't like this show, but I want a second season so that I could like it. It's obvious that the one season wasn't meant to be considered in isolation.

There's plenty of examples of shows that didn't have a great first season that, given the chance, really found their footing later on.

[-] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 8 points 11 months ago

They had filler in an 8 episode season, they could have spent some time on a coherent first season.

[-] joeldebruijn@lemmy.ml 13 points 11 months ago

I wanted it to work because of its place in the timeline, before everything else and provide more history.

[-] Twinkletoes@lemm.ee 9 points 11 months ago
[-] jet@hackertalks.com 8 points 11 months ago

Oh no...

The power of one.

[-] Beacon@fedia.io 5 points 11 months ago

I never even saw it. In fact i never even heard of it till right now. I stopped watching Disney Star Wars stuff after season 2 of the mandalorian. They were pumping out WAY too much content which made the quality of everything sink. After there were multiple shows running concurrently none of it seemed special anymore

[-] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 months ago

Rate of content creation and quality aren't related.

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 2 points 11 months ago

Yes they are. There's simple realities of labor that mean, for example, a particularly talented set design team can't push out 40 hours of work a day.

[-] carturo222@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago

It's a worrying sign. Disney should have more of a backbone against trolls.

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