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TIL the flash animation I made in 2004 is still available on Newgrounds.
I'm pretty sure you're the most famous person to use Lemmy. Well besides Margot Robbie
31k views on Newgrounds. I’m basically the Taylor Swift of Lemmy.
The cellular-bananular phone changed my life. I still sing it to this day
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Newgrounds is dead serious about preserving its content, even with the death of Flash. Ruffle, the Flash emulator, was created by a former employee and Newgrounds is a major sponsor of the project. The most important movies have been converted to video as well.
When Newgrounds adopted high-resolution thumbnails about a decade and a half ago, there was a big volunteer campaign to recreate thumbnails for the entire back catalogue of the portal.
Thanks to Ruffle, people can and are still submitting Flash content to the portal, in addition to web-friendly content!
yo, this is straight fire
fuck I started leaning to program in flash specifically because of videos like this.
Actionscript 2 was the shit
Flash for Dummies was my first book on programing. I used it to make games about feces.
Oh my god. I can't get the song out of my head now! Sweet Jesus what have you done to me?!
Love it lol. That banana phone song was a blast from the past.
Omg mine too (too embarrassing to share).
I forgot how much more patient with pacing we all used to be back in the 00s. Just trusting that the video would go somewhere and there'd be a payoff.
Looking at some of the popular videos from back then, people these days would just scroll away because nothing hooked their attention quickly enough. Myself included. We've been trained to expect such quick payoff 😭.
Fuck, now I'ma have to go check on my old deviantart account.
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TIL Newgrounds still exists.
Not only does it still exist, newgrounds is unique in that it is a long-running website from the early days that is still being run by the same person (never bought out or sold), still has no ads (despite funding issues), still has the same basic focus, still hosting the same content, and is still more or less exactly the same despite some UI changes.
Granted part of that is there hasn't been any real pressure on it, but still.
Genuinely, it is the kind of thing that I would want to put behind glass, because it is an abnormality in this wasteland we call the internet. It's this beautiful little corner that has been allowed to remain as it is, unmolested by the terrible bullshit around it.
It's feels like it's the only site where the algorithm doesn't kill animators.
Shit, am I about to become a newgrounds user again after like 15 years?
I assume the success of Friday Night Funkin' gave it some extra life.
There's also a lot of porn
Friday Night Fuckin' as well, then
Newgrounds would be awesome in the Fediverse tbh, would bring so much content (beyond politics and news).
Image hosting seems to be super problematic with activity pub, especially with something pf Newgrounds' size. I'm super invested in this, can't wait to see where it'll go.
With Tumblr joining ActivityPub soon enough™ we're already going to see the impact on hosting stuff like that. If I were Newgrounds, I'd wait for Tumblr to switch over and see how they do it.
Not to mention that fediverse software still loves to occasionally hug of death a server when you post links, heh.
(Post federates to lots of servers, and lots of servers pull images/previews all at more or less once.)
Quick, someone post "Cascade" from Homestuck and bring down the entire fediverse.
Perhaps for images they'd have to federate just the text and a small thumbnail, and then just the people interested would click through. I wonder if that'd be enough.
So we need better federated hosting...
I'd love to be able to "seed" the fediverse through p2p hosting of some sort. I'd set aside 1 TB of storage and 20 MB/s for that.
Yeah I've thought a tiny bit about this but it gets dodgy with things like csam.
How do we address some one uploading stuff that would get you arrested?
I would hav thought stuff like Lemmy would have configurations to eg.: not allow to upload images locally, only hotlink.
Anyway, an alternative is "zero knowledge" storage, where you don't know what you are storing (hence, you can't "choose" what to host or not host either). Another alternative is disjoint storage, where two different servers store different halves of a file (eg.: an Odd Bytes server and an Even Bytes server), but this means now it's necessary to hit more servers to recover a file.
But the sensible thing to do IMO is to apply "common carrier" concept. The water distribution company is not, to my knowledge, held liable when something happens like you fill a bucket of water and share it with someone else.
The water distribution company is not, to my knowledge, held liable when something happens like you fill a bucket of water and share it with someone else.
No but they are liable if there is lead in the water, even if they don't know it.
There's gotta be some kind of limited liability for this kind of thing. I mean, banks wouldn't be liable if someone put csam in a safe deposit box or (assuming they don't x-ray packages) UPS shipping csam in a sealed package. I think there just needs to be reasonable safeguards against it but I don't know if any of that is built into the software.
Issue here is that what’s in a safe deposit box isn’t also being shared/distributed. It is locked away.
If, however, they made copies of the contents of a box and put it in other boxes … and it came out somebody used that for CSAM then there probably would be some kind of liability.
Besides CSAM there’s also copyrighted material, etc which section 230 kind of covers but even then gets tricky since there’s a duty to respond to DMCA takedowns in order to get safe harbor protections.
It'd be a little more like someone going to a Kinko's (or whatever like that exists anymore) and using their copiers to copy CSAM.
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It's unfortunate that it's so slow, but IPFS would make a lot of sense for Fediverse content, assuming servers would also become IPFS nodes and bother to pin content posted in their servers.
Unfortunately, very few apps implement the protocol, even fewer implement it efficiently, and it can take seconds per file to resolve new content. On the upside, you'd get a peertube-like system that'd take care of Fediverse hosting with relative ease of development.
The cryptocurrency bros managed to get IPFS working for them, maybe we should give it a shot too.
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I’d donate a few dollars a month. Newgrounds is a great content creation space. I still play games there from time to time. The Mario 63 game is off the wall. Dead Estate is also a fantastic retro style shooter like the ones I remember from my childhood. I think places like this need to survive.
Hell Yeah, Newgrounds is blocked in my country. But if they added Activity Pub it will solve the problem for me.
What country blocks new grounds of all things?
India
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but is concerned about hosting fees for serving images to millions of people
People stopped caring about image bandwidth decades ago. Try wrangling a video-hosting problem, like PeerTube does.
so like not share the videos peertube style? just the art section of the site?
I missing the hamsters and dancing Jesus.
hasnt this already been solved with cdns? even if you just use it for the image hosting.
Those cost money too
shit costs money. cant imagine wanting to stand up a server/instance/whatevs with no hosting costs.
Not no hosting cost, but cost for things you don't want or need. I would host a server if it only filled up with things on my direct server and not pulling images and posts from other servers
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