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submitted 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) by Diuretic_Materialism@hexbear.net to c/chapotraphouse@hexbear.net

Okay so you have a farm? Big deal? And wtf does "eee aye eee aye ohhh" mean?

And why do I need to know what all the farm animals say? Jesus dude.

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[-] Acute_Engles@hexbear.net 22 points 1 month ago

Old Mcdonald HAD a farm.

It's a song lamenting the loss of his entire life's work. Brutally sad

[-] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 15 points 1 month ago

Farmer MacDonald lost his farm because of woke.

[-] Ecoleo@hexbear.net 14 points 1 month ago

Castro took Old McDonald's farm. McDonald fled to The Land of Freedom and Opportunity to start a restaurant, and the rest is history...

[-] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 7 points 1 month ago

EIEIO is a warning for all citizens of the global south: Every International Evil Is Occidental

[-] Moonworm@hexbear.net 19 points 1 month ago

Genuine: It is a song to teach children about common livestock and identifying their sounds as part of their socialization and education. It probably made more sense when more people lived in agricultural families.

[-] stink@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 1 month ago

When I was a kid I was told it was about a dude who had a farm and he stole animals from people but they couldn't say it outright without proof or he'd sue them or something idk

[-] HumanBehaviorByBjork@hexbear.net 17 points 1 month ago

it's a song about the reactionary character of the landholding peasantry

[-] Diuretic_Materialism@hexbear.net 2 points 1 month ago

If someone owns land how are they a peasant?

[-] Moonworm@hexbear.net 5 points 1 month ago

There are a lot of particulars in play in different places and times. Like peasants might own their land in a functional sense of being entitled to what it produces (minus what is owed to someone else - but this is still different from rents because it would typically be taxation payable "in kind" rather than in currency.), but they might also be bound to that land, unable to legally move where they live.

It really is difficult to apply the framework of capitalist ownership, enclosure, proletarianization, etc. In places where those things either hadn't happened or had only happened unevenly and hadn't become dominant for the majority of agricultural laborers. I think one of the big reasons that communist revolutions have largely been successful in still-industrializing, largely agrarian states is that in such a context a lot of a country's productive base is still held in distributed control by peasants.

Now, because categorization is inexact and the development of economic systems is different in every case, there are numerous cases in history where some section of the peasant, i.e. primarily subsistence agricultural class had more land they had rights to than they could farm themselves or had the necessary funds to employ people without the rights to their own land (or some land less than their capacity to work it) in effectively wage labor.

There are similarities to proletarian labor given the nature of ownership versus work, but proletarian labor has its one unique characteristics. It also bears some resemblance to landlordism, but because the wealthier peasants did not own the land that their workers lived on, the nature of this relationship is different. It's not that the agricultural laborers need to pay rents to work the land, it's that they need the income to subsist.

Of course this is a vulgar generalization and I am no expert on the matter. There are myriad specific different examples of what we might call "landholding peasantry" in contrast to some other landless peasantry.

[-] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 3 points 1 month ago

My understanding is that peasants need to work land for subsistence while landlords just collect rent.

[-] m532@hexbear.net 2 points 1 month ago

Peasants are bourgeois

[-] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 15 points 1 month ago

E.I.E.I.O = Every International Evil Is Occidental

[-] mathemachristian@hexbear.net 12 points 1 month ago

Doesn't matter, animal liberation means he gets the wall.

[-] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 2 points 1 month ago
[-] HexReplyBot@hexbear.net 1 points 1 month ago

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[-] infuziSporg@hexbear.net 2 points 1 month ago

He is yodeling to his animals

"MacDonald" evokes an ancestry in the Scottish Highlands, where mountain-biome techniques of animal husbandry would be common, you want to signal your presence to animals without removeding them, so you yodel to imitate their calls

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