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[-] LENINSGHOSTFACEKILLA@hexbear.net 62 points 1 month ago

I for one am shocked to hear that the obviously superior forces are still winning the same way they have been since the start

[-] doublepepperoni@hexbear.net 52 points 1 month ago

I had an acquaintance in real life tell me Russians were resorting to grabbing old Mosins out of museums to arm their soldiers in 2022 what-the-hell

[-] red_stapler@hexbear.net 40 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

It was plucky when Ukraine mounted a maxim gun on a convertible BMW or whatever tho.

[-] GenderIsOpSec@hexbear.net 37 points 1 month ago

I had a......person I knew, tell me in the summer of 2022 how he was now allowed to be racist against all russians and solemnly stating how russians only know how to do mass assaults with all the men and it didnt work for them this time just like it didnt work during the winter war. He was an insufferable redditor so I'm sure he thinks that the ukrainean casualty numbers for russians are accurate

[-] doublepepperoni@hexbear.net 31 points 1 month ago

Another person told me everything that happened in Ukraine since 2014 is good because even dying in a war is preferrable to living under a Russian puppet government like in Belarus

[-] GenderIsOpSec@hexbear.net 28 points 1 month ago

finnish people are certifiably not okay

[-] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 25 points 1 month ago

So I assume that they're going to find a way to die if Trump wins again right?

[-] VILenin@hexbear.net 13 points 1 month ago

This person you knew should probably look up who won the winter war.

[-] GenderIsOpSec@hexbear.net 17 points 1 month ago

Look, buddy. The Winter War and Continuation War are propagandized to hell and back in Finland. It's like 50% of our national character, that we murdered so many soviets that we actually basically won. I remember being really weirded out when I first heard that we lost the war, because none of our teaching or documentaries or anything actually just say how badly we ate shit.

[-] Diuretic_Materialism@hexbear.net 36 points 1 month ago

That's a ridiculous claim considering the MASSIVE back stock of AKs Russia has. Seriously I could buy them dusting off older AK from an old Soviet warehouse but, museum Mosins? The fuck?

[-] Dolores@hexbear.net 29 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

there are over twice the number of kalashnikovs out there than all mosin nagants ever made lol

[-] TechnoUnionTypeBeat@hexbear.net 36 points 1 month ago

I've heard that about Mosins as well, with the sole proof being a single photo of an irregular holding a sniper Mosin, which is of course still a perfectly valid weapon to use even in 202x

I've also seen this claim made baselessly about T-34s, as if Russia somehow has any functional combat ready T-34s left since 1960

[-] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 31 points 1 month ago

Russia pulling T-34s out of a giant vat of cosmoline like a mammoth sucked into a tar pit but in reverse

[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)
[-] HexReplyBot@hexbear.net 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

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[-] bumpusoot@hexbear.net 3 points 1 month ago

Militaristic world superpower has more firearms, tech, and manpower than relatively small country??? Who knew

[-] P1d40n3@hexbear.net 60 points 1 month ago

A horrifying waste of lives. Fuck the entire West for encouraging this slaughter.

With that said, I have a hard time believing that Russia will really 'win' this war. Even if they take the lands they are liberating, Ukraine promises to be a failed rump state, a playground for CIA and other western terrorists, Nazi's with nothing to lose. I can easily imagine the terrorism that will take place 'post-war', with lots of bombings and massacres all over the world. Ukraine is the next Afghanistan, and the whole world will cry out in pain as the Banderites unleash their bloody dreams.

I'm not usually a doomer, but the simple facts I see point me toward a never-ending insurgency, with endless Western backing. And of course, the blow back that comes as well...

[-] Ericthescruffy@hexbear.net 38 points 1 month ago

I think it was established pretty early on that Ukraine being a failed state is, for all intents and purposes, a win for Russia. It's preferable to them being a NATO member at least.

[-] P1d40n3@hexbear.net 20 points 1 month ago

I guess my point is that I fail to see to much of a difference. A failed state can still be a NATO springboard (see: Libya). Even if this ends in some kind of treaty, how long until Moscow is back in the same spot again?

[-] StalinStan@hexbear.net 31 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I am entetnally frustrated that when talking to a Ukraine supporter they cannot tell me one good thing about Ukraine that is with fighting for. Russia sucks, but it taking over Ukraine would be an upgrade

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 34 points 1 month ago

It's so surreal to see how libs continue bleating about western values, democracy, etc. while Ukraine has objectively become a dictatorship at this point.

[-] doublepepperoni@hexbear.net 24 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

"but they've been forced to do so because of the war started by the evil Rooskies"

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 32 points 1 month ago

Amusingly the same logic is now being applied in order to cut back on human rights in Europe as well. Measures have to be taken to protect the fragile and naive public from evil Russian propaganda.

[-] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 26 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

We're good because we're not THEM, nevermind that we're doing all the shit that we say makes them evil and inhuman, we have to do it because otherwise THEY would win, and they would do all the things we're doing, which we have to do to stop them from doing all the things we're doing, which we have to do to stop them from doing all the things we're doing, which we have to do to stop them from doing all the things we're doing, which we have to do to sto

[-] bumpusoot@hexbear.net 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Yep, Russian news is basically censored across the continent, and travel sanctions effectively mean you can't meet any Russians in person either.

Just in case we see them as actual human beings or something.

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 month ago

the crazy part is how easily this stuff became normalized

[-] VILenin@hexbear.net 14 points 1 month ago

We’re fighting for democracy, how dare you suggest we hold elections, you will be locked up until you acknowledge the democratic nature of our glorious nation.

[-] jackmarxist@hexbear.net 23 points 1 month ago

Russia is doing this with nothing but shovels. Imagine what will happen if Russians invent Muskets.

[-] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

It would enable them to invent the most deadly weapon ever devised by man:

[-] REgon@hexbear.net 23 points 1 month ago
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