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Nationalist propaganda capeshit gonna propagandise

More like Pooperman amirite?

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[-] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 35 points 3 weeks ago

truth, justice

American way

Sorry but you have to pick one

[-] FortifiedAttack@hexbear.net 5 points 3 weeks ago

"Truth, justice and the American way" does in a way imply that the former two are not part of the American way.

[-] Moss@hexbear.net 29 points 3 weeks ago

Awesome! They should make him wear the American flag on his back too, and always tell bystanders that "they're the real heroes".

[-] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 29 points 3 weeks ago

This Superman is going to kill so many people in the global south.

[-] tocopherol@hexbear.net 13 points 3 weeks ago

Well they did say "the American way"

[-] MaoTheLawn@hexbear.net 28 points 3 weeks ago

I think it's going to be ironic, in a lib sort of way, where Superman discovers that America bad, and that some deep state shadow agency is colluding with a foreign entity, but then Superman saves the day and America becomes the good and true America that America was always destined to be.

[-] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 16 points 3 weeks ago

This is the only plot that is ever allowed in lib slop that even remotely acknowledges that the something in the status quo might be bad.

It's also close to the plot of Barbie lol. Barbie learns she's problematic, but it turns it that nah she's actually great.

[-] MaoTheLawn@hexbear.net 10 points 3 weeks ago

It's even in conservative shit, except for them it's usually bad guy CIA vs good guy FBI, or something like that.

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 13 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

If Superman doesn't laser eyes everyone responsible for every bad thing america has ever done he's definitely a lib

[-] FortifiedAttack@hexbear.net 7 points 3 weeks ago

He laser eyes everyone in the Middle East instead, with tears in his eyes (and lasers), because the American way forces him to. ๐Ÿ˜”

[-] HumanBehaviorByBjork@hexbear.net 9 points 3 weeks ago

so, captain america? idk i know DC has had more trouble getting their Cinematic Universe together, but the ones they have released have been more thematically simplistic and straightforward than the MCU.

[-] totalyNOTaPIRATE@hexbear.net 28 points 3 weeks ago

I hate superheroes I hate superheroes I hate superheroes

[-] SevenSkalls@hexbear.net 5 points 3 weeks ago

Hell, I'm a fucking turbo lib nerd super hero fan boy, and even I think this sounds like a shit lib af premise.

[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

this sounds like a shit lib af premise

It's beating that dead horse of "young people these days, so ridiculous because they care about things!" grillman that the fucking Brady Bunch movie tried some decades ago.

[-] TrimmedDubya@hexbear.net 25 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

My own Superman movie pitch:

50 hour movie where he listens to all of Blowback and then destroys America.

chefs-kiss

[-] FortifiedAttack@hexbear.net 20 points 3 weeks ago

Directed by James Gunn at least, so it won't be totally awful.

[-] LaGG_3@hexbear.net 15 points 3 weeks ago

I'm holding out hope that the "truth, justice, and the American way" shit might at least be a little ironic, but who knows. His other capeslop movies are pretty decent.

[-] CthulhusIntern@hexbear.net 19 points 3 weeks ago

If you're going to make a movie about a superhero who has outdated values, you already have the perfect superhero for that in Captain America. Why Superman?

[-] Sulvor@hexbear.net 19 points 3 weeks ago

Funny answer: They gotta tap into the unironic Homelander fan demographic

Real answer: Marvel vs DC. Everything Marvel has to tie into the overly convoluted MCU and spawn 2-3 submovies

[-] BodyBySisyphus@hexbear.net 16 points 3 weeks ago

Captain America is owned by a different money-grubbing corporate Goliath

[-] Ericthescruffy@hexbear.net 7 points 3 weeks ago

Captain America is Marvel. Superman is DC. ...nah..its really not anymore complicated than that.

[-] Ericthescruffy@hexbear.net 17 points 3 weeks ago

When Captain America: Winter Soldier came out it was (insofar as capeshit slop can be) a pretty big deal for a few reaosns. The biggest one by far was that they took a guy whose whole schtick is that he throws a giant frisbee and managed to make him and his fight sequences actually fucking cool. Of note also though was that it actually confronted and indeed actually confirmed the idea that the shadowy government agency they were all working with were basically Nazis. The moral of that one was that America has become what it originally fought against in WW2 and we needed the symbol of the American dream to bring us back on track.

That was 10 years ago. At this point even people like me who will guiltily consume capeshit will tell you that's all cope. America is a genocidal colonizer state who served as inspiration to the Nazis. The values Captain America claims to have represented are and always were fantasy.

If I was to do a Superman movie I think I would take a page out of David Goyer's brief comic run where Superman renounced his American citizenship. Maybe have a B-plot that ties into the A plot where Superman who is by any and all definitions an undocumented immigrant is being granted American citizenship only to have him reject the offer at the end when he realizes that the concept of the American way is actually short sighted and myopic and that he actually needs to see himself as a citizen of the world. Honestly I wouldn't be shocked if they actually go that route. Meaningless platitudes but I don't see how anything else won't land completely flat.

[-] Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee 6 points 3 weeks ago

I enjoyed reading this

[-] KimJongGoku@hexbear.net 17 points 3 weeks ago

The Kryptonian to crypto-fascist pipeline is real

[-] Vernon_Tennessee@hexbear.net 14 points 3 weeks ago

Tbh i think most people are over capeflicks that its probably gonna do meh at the box office either way.

[-] miz@hexbear.net 14 points 3 weeks ago

this is going to be a steaming pile of American exceptionalism

[-] BodyBySisyphus@hexbear.net 14 points 3 weeks ago

Bit idea: Inframan: he's an alien from another planet whose otherworldly origin makes him the only guy capable of doing some goddamn self-reflection

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 13 points 3 weeks ago

Superman stars in MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN and laser eyes all the democrats.

[-] HumanBehaviorByBjork@hexbear.net 13 points 3 weeks ago

no, AMERICA IS ALREADY GREAT hillgasm

[-] tactical_trans_karen@hexbear.net 13 points 3 weeks ago

Wow this is going to be shit lol

[-] PaX@hexbear.net 12 points 3 weeks ago

The new lkorm isknt like htwo old normmm btw

WOkness chas gone too far

I am vberuy smart and nuanced dactually

[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 10 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I already despised Man of Steel for the Snyderfication of the character. "Boo hoo I'm better than everyone else and the untermenschen resent me for that! Fortunately the military is actually really cool once they get to know me!" hitler-detector

This shit sounds like grillman tier "rant in car on Youtube" shit.

EDIT: I should have said Snyder; mixed up my cryptofascists there.

[-] HamManBad@hexbear.net 6 points 3 weeks ago

Nolanization is underselling it, that was a Snyder movie who's so much worse.

[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 6 points 3 weeks ago

I mixed up my gen-X cryptofascist assholes. My mistake.

[-] Vingst@hexbear.net 6 points 3 weeks ago

It's gonna have a banging soundtrack tho

[-] bigbrowncommie69@hexbear.net 6 points 3 weeks ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/What%27s_So_Funny_About_Truth%2C_Justice_%26_the_American_Way%3F?wprov=sfla1

I believe it's going to be a very loose adaptation of this story.

Also don't forget that for people in the US invoking "America" in this way is just so normalised for them to the extent that they don't even know they're being jingoistic. I don't think these people are even conscious of how they come across.

this post was submitted on 26 Sep 2024
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