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[-] Thallo@hexbear.net 54 points 2 weeks ago

We're still mad about ethics in gaming journalism?

[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 25 points 2 weeks ago

freeze-gamergaters won't stop until games journalism is great again, like it was in the 90s when Rise of the Robots got game of the year awards before anyone could even play it... and it was utter and complete trash. Oh and "booth babes" were everywhere and advertisements sometimes forgot to show the fucking game because a centerfold of a le naked feeemale is all that the hogs required to buy in (if you don't believe me, look up "Forsaken's" centerfold ad. It was in magazines I owned back then).

[-] Thallo@hexbear.net 9 points 2 weeks ago

if you don't believe me, look up "Forsaken's" centerfold ad. It was in magazines I owned back then

No need, fellow old. I was there chomsky-yes-honey

I remember renting that game and thinking... Wtf is this? Lol

[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 8 points 2 weeks ago

I remember renting that game and thinking... Wtf is this? Lol

I didn't know either because the game wasn't advertised as anything but awooga and saying "Descent but not as smooth or polished with a lot more colored lighting" wouldn't have attracted the hogs, I guess.

[-] Flyberius@hexbear.net 11 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah. Here we are worrying about ethics in war correspondence, but then there are these titans of truth.

[-] AernaLingus@hexbear.net 48 points 2 weeks ago

I refuse to read any movie critic reviews unless I can watch them react to the entire movie MST3K-style

[-] LaGG_3@hexbear.net 27 points 2 weeks ago

Plus, it has to be done entirely live lmao

[-] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 45 points 2 weeks ago

In addition to the other nonsense, she says "authentic reactions" as though acting isn't a thing and hasn't been used on TV, both pre-recorded and even live, to shill for various products for decades now

[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 28 points 2 weeks ago

Screaming into a microphone to get credulous kids to pay up has been a successful grift for decades now. debord-tired

[-] Sulvor@hexbear.net 5 points 2 weeks ago
[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 6 points 2 weeks ago

I AM YOUR FAKE FRIEND LIKE AND SUBSCRIBE AND RING THE BELL ALSO THERE'S THIS OTHER STREAMER THAT I DONT LIKE SO GET READY TO GO TO E-WAR ON MY BEHALF AGAINST THEM AND THEIR FANDOM I LOVE YOU ALL heated-gamer-moment

[-] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 16 points 2 weeks ago

True. There are so many trash reaction channels that exaggerate or “get in character” to fake expressions

[-] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 13 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

For more information, watch any Ubisoft E3 conference (actually don't do this to yourself)

[-] vegeta1@hexbear.net 42 points 2 weeks ago

I don't think gamers/tourists know how much of anything works to be honest

[-] Rose@lemmy.zip 14 points 2 weeks ago

I often hear gamers talk about paid reviews, but from having communicated with countless publishers and their reps for review codes over a few years, I've never come across even a single attempt at influencing the upcoming review. You get an embargo and a press kit sometimes containing the known bugs that are expected to be fixed by the global release. Occasionally the press kit also contains a guide to the game.

[-] lorty@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 2 weeks ago

There's a lot you can do to influence the review that's not literally paying for it. You can do everything paid trips to your studio for a preview, you can review embargo it until the release date, you can dictate what screenshots and videos they can use and at the worst you can just not send a review code to a publication that didn't cooperate last time.

Or maybe you just have a rabid fanbase that thinks everything you shit out is gold so they harass reviewers that give a "low" score.

[-] Rose@lemmy.zip 0 points 2 weeks ago

How do the screenshots and videos influence the score or impression from playing the actual game? How does the embargo affect anything about the review content? At worst, the players would just see the same review on the release day.

Even if everybody pre-orders, platforms like Steam do not count the pre-order period towards their two weeks policy, so you still get two weeks or two gameplay hours to decide.

[-] lorty@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 2 weeks ago

Everything I've listed is a non-exhaustive list of things CD Project did to get raving reviews for Cyberpunk on release. People may have forgotten about it but they did not allow gameplay videos, only allowed screenshots from promotional material and also promised reviewers that all the bugs and performance problems would be fixed by a day one patch.

So yes, they can and do influence reviews, even if not by literally sending money.

[-] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 39 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

This has to be the one of the stupidest things I've ever heard. Streaming a playthrough of an entire game online misses the whole point of a review. Nevermind spoiling the entire story and gameplay, no publisher on earth is going to let a reviewer with early access put the final boss battle in a review for instance. As someone else said, this is like saying the only way to review movies is to watch a stream of the reviewer reacting to the whole movie.

[-] Adkml@hexbear.net 6 points 2 weeks ago

Also the only way this would be used is for chids to make a supercut of eberytime a journalists they do t like dies in a game and then post that as evidence the review is meaningless and the author isn't a Real Gamer.

[-] doublepepperoni@hexbear.net 33 points 2 weeks ago

I recognise this lady's mug from YT recommendations, she's right-wing nerd outrage merchant #45213

[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 22 points 2 weeks ago

LOOK AT ME LOOK AT ME IM THE GOOD ONE death-to-the-poor

[-] LaGG_3@hexbear.net 28 points 2 weeks ago

Imagine thinking that games journalists have time to completely finish every game they review

[-] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 22 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I must see you cry in the 80th hour of Kingdom Hearts: 2/7rd Reverie of Pig Poop Balls when a 10 year old's anime OC sacrifices himself to save one of Donald Duck's nephews from an energy beam summoned by the racist crows from Dumbo or else your review isn't valid

[-] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 22 points 2 weeks ago
[-] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 weeks ago

Is it too late for me to ask what's this about calling dipshits tourists?

[-] doublepepperoni@hexbear.net 14 points 2 weeks ago

It's a nerd insult that originated with reactionary right-wing nerds. They think that if you're a fan of video games, anime, WH40k or whatever and want more diversity or oppose lolicon you're not a real fan but a mere tourist that's appropriating nerd culture

[-] dwindling7373@feddit.it 13 points 2 weeks ago

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hyperbole

She (?) has a point, the point is "reviews are written by people that clearly did not play the game to a meaningful extent", not "we need vods".

The person answering is not engaging with the issue, maybe he's stupid, maybe he's unwilling to engage with the matter at hand.

[-] Adkml@hexbear.net 15 points 2 weeks ago

If you're still treating literally anything the "ethics in gaming journalism" crowd says with good faith I don't know what to tell you.

This is just setting up more hoops to jump through so chuds can say "this person didn't even play the entire game so their assertion that I just don't like this game because there's minorities in it isn't valid"

[-] dwindling7373@feddit.it 4 points 2 weeks ago

I don't really follow any of that, don't know of any crowd.

Gaming is a huge deal and I'm 300% sure there's a huge push for marketing AKA journalism to sell. I don't even need to read a single line from a single article to know that must be true.

Make of this what you will :)

[-] Adkml@hexbear.net 11 points 2 weeks ago

I and everybody else who reads that will "make of that" that you make up your mind ahead of time, relevant information or context be damned.

Because capital G Gamers are irredeemable dumbfucks :)

[-] dwindling7373@feddit.it -1 points 2 weeks ago

Sure, have fun throwing insults around. I'm not a gamer I just have the most simple grasp of reality and the awareness a bunch of virtually free to duplicate assets are going for 60$ a pop and people gobble them up as if money growed on trees.

Capital G, out.

[-] Starlet@hexbear.net 4 points 2 weeks ago

You talk like you get shoved in lockers

[-] dwindling7373@feddit.it 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Sadly enough, I've had the privilege not to get bullied much in school. I find your remark rather distasteful either way.

Your point? Any attack on gaming journalism comes from a place of rejecting inclusion and queerness in videogames and the perception that there's a conspiracy going on to push the "woke agenda"?

Why is this being tied to an attack that can be summarized as "A lot of journalists are not being genuine in their reviews"?

Am I missing some context? Are the people in the screenshot known figures?

[-] Starlet@hexbear.net 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Sadly enough, I've had the privilege not to get bullied much in school. I find your remark rather distasteful either way.

jagoff

[-] dwindling7373@feddit.it 1 points 2 weeks ago

Have a nice day.

[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 12 points 2 weeks ago

Oh look another good one that's jangling the freeze-gamer keys of requiring k/d ratio/gearscore/receipt-of-Fortnite-skin-purchases to even be allowed an opinion about the bideo bames. pathetic

[-] marx_mentat@hexbear.net 1 points 2 weeks ago

Caring about the sank titty of muh game reviews more than anything else in this busted ass society

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