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[-] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 82 points 20 hours ago

Guess what!

Food is also a human right!

[-] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 46 points 19 hours ago

Fun fact: the US is one of the only countries in the world that does not recognise food as a human right

[-] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 22 points 19 hours ago

The difference is that “food” isn’t something that falls out of the sky or simply exists in its final form in nature. It is farmed, processed, and packaged for market.

Water, by itself, is natural and in its final form (sans boiling away impurities). It also falls from the sky. The problem comes up that companies like Nestle have “water rights” that some argue they shouldn’t have that prohibit use of publicly available water for anybody but Nestle.

Personally, I don’t see a problem with a company profiting off of the packaging, marketing, and distribution of bottled water. The problem I have is that companies should not be allowed to take as much water as they want, especially if it hurts public interest. I also have issue with states restricting a persons ability to capture and use rain water.

Kind of hypocritical that I cannot capture rain water and sell it, but Nestle can siphon of millions of gallons of water from a public water source and everyone is expected to be okay with it.

[-] Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee 3 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

"Well fuck me then, eh?" -Thousands of species of edible plants

[-] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 3 points 13 hours ago

I have a fig tree in my backyard that says you're wrong

[-] TheSambassador@lemmy.world 8 points 18 hours ago

I mean... Some food does literally just exist and we go out and eat it.

[-] irmoz@lemmy.world 1 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

Not as part of a normal life. Or at least, I don't see many people carrying baskets of freshly picked apples around.

Your point is true, though, even if a bit impractical for most.

[-] kmaismith@lemm.ee 2 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

When we culturally embrace that food is a market item, not a right, then we systemically avoid maintaining or enabling sources of food that violate market principles: say, for example, keeping fruit trees in public parks, and making excess farm production available to the public

[-] irmoz@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago

Yeah that's kinda key to my my point

[-] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 2 points 13 hours ago

The difference is that “food” isn’t something that falls out of the sky or simply exists in its final form in nature.

Isaac Newton disagrees.

[-] shalafi@lemmy.world 4 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Rainwater capture isn't about you and I and some 50-gallon drums, your article even talks about reasonable use. The idea is to stop assholes from changing/diverting waterways.

There was an ass somewhere out West that was prosecuted, acting like he was a simple man getting the government shaft. He was collecting so much he dried up a creek that downstream farmers depended on.

Funny enough, I looked up Florida and apparently we not only encourage rainwater collection, some municipalities offer incentives! Weird. Now if it would only rain...

[-] SatyrSack@feddit.org 15 points 19 hours ago

Guess what!

Also, as an aside, thank you for using an exclamation point. As a licensed and registered pedant, it always bugs me to see a question mark on a statement/command. "Guess what?" is a common offender.

[-] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 16 points 19 hours ago

I'm going to need to see that license

[-] SatyrSack@feddit.org 14 points 19 hours ago

I... forgot my wallet at home, constable.

[-] casmael@lemm.ee 8 points 17 hours ago

suspect evaded arrest and made off with a whole bag of punctuation marks. Headed northwest into a series of tunnels. Requesting backup.

[-] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 2 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

I have used both in the past, interpreting it as "did(n't) you know!?" But I take your point, it's really an order. I shall see that I don't offend in the future.

[-] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 10 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

Water already is too, via the Geneva convention, and other human rights treaties/laws.

[-] Asafum@feddit.nl 42 points 20 hours ago

That is a real quote and absolutely fucking atrocious.

On the one hand, extremists think one of two things necessary for life should be a right.

On the other, I want to exploit those needs for personal gain.

...Times like these I wish I wasn't an atheist so I could find solace in the idea that they'd burn in hell. Instead they'll live a life of luxury while people die.

[-] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 8 points 19 hours ago

All these sociopaths just want personal gain, and don't realize that it makes us all lose. And when we all lose (at this stage of the game) we ALL lose!

[-] Rampsquatch@sh.itjust.works 2 points 15 hours ago

Maybe they don't realize, but I don't think they would care either way.

[-] Damage@feddit.it 3 points 19 hours ago

The thing is, food should absolutely be a right, but also, food requires work to produce, water literally falls from the sky, comes out of a source by itself, and flows in a river. It's the most basic and natural of natural resources.

[-] MaggiWuerze@feddit.org 4 points 18 hours ago

It will surprise you to hear, that food also is just there. It literally grows on trees

[-] basmati@lemmus.org 3 points 17 hours ago

Food literally grows on its own. It can take work to produce but it literally just does that.

[-] Asafum@feddit.nl 2 points 18 hours ago

And these fucks consider water a foodstuff... You don't do anything to water it just is.

Pepsi is a foodstuff, you make it. I don't claim a right to have Pepsi.

A hotdog is a foodstuff, you make it. I don't claim a right to have a hotdog.

Water is water... We literally need it to survive, even sooner than we need food. It's something like 7 days without water and you die, but at least 30 without food...

[-] RangerJosie@lemmy.world 38 points 20 hours ago

That guy should be hunted down and killed.

That Nestlé guy. Not the star trek guy.

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 7 points 19 hours ago

Important clarification, yes.

[-] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 18 hours ago

Nestle has an army of child slaves to protect him.

[-] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 14 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

I don't think having a right to something removes that it might also have a market value, it just puts constraints on that market value and the ability to access it. Often but not always mediated by welfare payments, pensions, or government coupon rates.

[-] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 6 points 19 hours ago

Indeed.

Food for the vast majority of the world is a human right, but it has market value.

Shelter likewise is also a human right, but that also obviously holds market value.

[-] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 18 hours ago

With your username, I'm not sure how to read your comment!

I love it either way.

[-] just_ducky_in_NH@lemmy.world 1 points 15 hours ago
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