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[-] grazing7264@hexbear.net 54 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

iPhones are actively hostile and materially harmful to poor people

They don't allow you to set data caps! They don't even allow you to see your monthly DATA USAGE

If you've ever wondered about the stories of people being stuck with extreme data overuse charges, it's because a majority of the phones sold and used in the United States explicitly push their users to overuse their data

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[-] REgon@hexbear.net 15 points 4 days ago

wtf that's crazy

[-] RoabeArt@hexbear.net 12 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I had a T-Mobile prepaid plan on a drugstore Android phone from 2010-2012. The data usage app they preloaded on it was almost a day or two behind, so if it showed that you were close to hitting your cap, chances are you probably already hit it if you had been using your phone a lot in the past 24-48 hours. I caught on when the app told me that I had almost two gigabytes left (back when you could stretch a gig out quite a bit if you stayed away from video apps or downloading big files), then I got a text from them an hour later saying that I hit my cap.

Granted I was on a plan that had "unlimited" data that throttled my phone to like 128 kilobits per second when I hit the cap, but it was still deceitful as fuck for people who were on plans that charged extra if they went past their cap.

It's crazy that phone companies are still pulling this shit.

[-] Bartsbigbugbag@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago

They do in fact let you see your usage. Even adjusted to your billing cycle. It’s listed under the cellular section in settings.

[-] grazing7264@hexbear.net 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Universal usage per billing cycle or non universal (per app only)? This thread from June 2024 on the Apple forum only shows a per app limit, is there a way to set a universal data limit?

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/255644341?sortBy=rank

[-] Moss@hexbear.net 52 points 4 days ago

iPhones are such a dogshit product and I genuinely have no fucking clue why there are so many ardent defenders of Apple. Like Apple is so blatant about being a shitty greedy company who make worse products than everyone else and charge more, but somehow people still lick their boots and act like elitists for spending 1000 dollars on something that my 150 buck Chinese phone can do better.

[-] REgon@hexbear.net 31 points 4 days ago

How tf did apple manage to make "not owning an iphone" an ick for so many people lol

[-] CrawlMarks@hexbear.net 29 points 4 days ago

They make android phones use an ugly text color when they text you.

[-] LeninsBeard@hexbear.net 20 points 4 days ago

They also genuinely make texting with any other phones extremely difficult. Like I can send videos to people without iphones fine but when I send one to an iphone user it comes through in like 180p.

[-] VHS@hexbear.net 14 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

iMessage and FaceTime lock-in.

Probably not so much of a problem anymore, but Android phones used to have a lot of crapware from the phone manufacturer and/or carrier and you couldn't expect more than a single OS update. Android phones are a good deal at $100 but I wouldn't want to pay $700 for such messy UI. Google's Nexus and Pixel as well as Motorola and OnePlus catered to the enthusiasts that knew what they want but these have never been big sellers in the West.

[-] REgon@hexbear.net 5 points 3 days ago

I love my oneplus lol. I hate how they left the concept of being cheaper than the competitors

[-] BGDelirium@hexbear.net 4 points 3 days ago

Also iTunes and crappy iPods back in the day. Loved my Creative Zen Vision and Sansa Clip MP3 players back in my 2005-2015 era

[-] came_apart_at_Kmart@hexbear.net 13 points 3 days ago

it's like buying a benz luxury sedan. it's an overpriced fashion accessory where function and value proposition are subservient to brand and form. it says, "i don't know what i'm doing, but i'm paid so i am doing it correctly." the idea that, when the warranty expires, it will be wildly expensive if not artificially impossible to service for basic issues does not enter into the equation. KBB estimates the cost for an oil change on a Mercedes-Benz GLE 350 to be over $200 and to change the oil and do basic checks of fluid levels and replace air filters they charge $450. unique/specialized tools and equipiment, absurd design requiring lots of labor time, ultra expensive material costs. it's a design philosophy of perceived prestige and price signaling.

apparently on AppleTV+ the native advertising rules for scripts require baddies to not be shown using apple products. they have to use android stuff, PCs and flip-phones. that's how you know the sham is as fragile as it's ludicrous defenders.

[-] TreadOnMe@hexbear.net 23 points 4 days ago

I find it is a really easy way to sus out suckers, like crypto.

[-] quarrk@hexbear.net 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I’m genuinely curious what $150 phone beats a $1,000 iPhone

Comparing the iPhone to its more available competition in the US (where iPhones dominate) it’s not that much, if at all, more expensive than a similar spec Pixel or Galaxy phone. And the reputations of neither Google nor Samsung are any better than Apple.

I use an iPhone now because I got sick of the volatility of Android. Android is constantly being “refreshed” with gimmicks and cosmetic overhauls. New apps are created and sundowned after 2 years. Lots of bugs/quirks that you just learn to work around, like WiFi randomly dropping so you have to reboot once a day. Feels reminiscent of Windows in that way.

Just like with non-Apple phones, you can buy a used iPhone for much cheaper. Yes the current year flagship models will be very expensive, over $1,000. That will also be true for any flagship Android phone or even a Huawei (e.g. the Pura 70 Pro is $1,300)

[-] personalthought381@lemm.ee 7 points 3 days ago

I’m genuinely curious what $150 phone beats a $1,000 iPhone

Answer : not sure what you mean by beat, but if it involves having similar or even better specs then I found 2. Both cost less than $150 where I am. Take a look. I have compared them to iPhone 16 plus which goes for a bit over $1000.

Bonus: you get headphone jack and expandable memory with both.

Lots of bugs/quirks that you just learn to work around, like WiFi randomly dropping so you have to reboot once a day.

Been using the same dirt cheap android for 6 years and never had this issue. Maybe it's just your model? Sure there are bugs in android, but then you can look at all the battery drain issues in literally every iOS upgrade. link

Point is: no phone is bug free

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[-] Owl@hexbear.net 54 points 4 days ago

iPhones don't even have a way to cancel an alarm that's coming up in five minutes.

[-] Posadas@hexbear.net 39 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

No wonder why Communism is when no iPhone

[-] BakedCatboy@lemmy.ml 21 points 4 days ago

I use that feature basically every morning. My alarm is only a backup for the roughly 3 times a year I oversleep. I hate waking up to an alarm which motivates me to get up before it goes off.

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[-] farting_weedman@hexbear.net 13 points 4 days ago

I cancel the upcoming alarm on an iPhone all the time. Idk what the screen is called if it’s lock or whatever but there’s a button right there.

Might not be recognizing sarcasm though. Spent some time in world to see what it’s about.

[-] Owl@hexbear.net 11 points 4 days ago

Wait, where is the button?

Not sarcasm; I looked at the lock screen (where it is in Android) and the alarm app (where any reasonable person would put it) and couldn't find it.

[-] Tom742@hexbear.net 8 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

It’s on the lock screen, but I think only when the alarm is coming up

Edit: I can only get it to show up there when the alarm has gone off and I’ve snoozed it

[-] Chump@hexbear.net 7 points 4 days ago

It appears close to the finish time, but you can also tap the alarm icon itself and it’ll take you right to a cancel button

[-] farting_weedman@hexbear.net 6 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I just tried it and it only for snoozing alarms. I definitley cancel those mfs all the time.

E: it’s timers, I use timers as a snooze one I cancel those from the Lock Screen while still asleep all the time.

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[-] TransComrade69@hexbear.net 58 points 4 days ago

cringe

Hell, my Pixel even trickle charges until my earliest alarm to preserve battery life... This is just sad lmao

[-] MolotovHalfEmpty@hexbear.net 32 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Yeah, are they genuinely not already doing this kind of stuff already? My Xiaomi does that as well as adaptive charging based on my usage etc.

[-] ThermonuclearEgg@hexbear.net 12 points 4 days ago

iOS has adaptive charging. They just don't give charging estimates.

[-] MolotovHalfEmpty@hexbear.net 7 points 3 days ago

That's a little better, but seems like a weird UI oversight.

[-] ClimateChangeAnxiety@hexbear.net 17 points 4 days ago

Ironically iPhones have done that for a long while now, but for some reason haven’t had a timer

[-] TransComrade69@hexbear.net 15 points 4 days ago

No timer but has trickle charge cringe

[-] comrade_pibb@hexbear.net 16 points 4 days ago

Somehow i never connected the trickle charge target with my alarm settings. I was WAY over complicating it in my presumed implementation 🤦‍♂️

[-] Lussy@hexbear.net 13 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

The iPhone has this feature

[-] glimmer_twin@hexbear.net 3 points 3 days ago

iPhones also do that and have for years. Like idgaf about Apple but people in this thread are talking about a product they are proud non-owners of as if they are experts. I’ve seen four or five “my phone does this, stupid iPhone users!” that are talking about features iPhone has also had for years lol. Apple is a shitty tech company, don’t need to be making shit up to criticise them.

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[-] Sickos@hexbear.net 31 points 4 days ago

I COULD NOT BELIEVE THIS. I saw a celebratory thread on reddit-logo, literally thought it was a joke.

[-] GeorgeZBush@hexbear.net 36 points 4 days ago

Apple drones will still mock you for not having their shitty products lmao

[-] toys_are_back_in_town@hexbear.net 14 points 4 days ago

i'll use a gold apollo pager before i use an iphone

[-] Lovely_sombrero@hexbear.net 25 points 4 days ago

They added the ability to rearrange desktop icons THIS YEAR.

[-] glimmer_twin@hexbear.net 4 points 3 days ago

Desktop icons? Like the icons for apps? It’s had that as long as I can remember

[-] Lovely_sombrero@hexbear.net 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

The grid is till locked (hasn't been on Android for ~10 years), but now they allow almost Android-like rearranging of icons and widgets.

So while home screens appear to be no longer limited to four columns of apps and seven rows (including the dock), actually, they still are. The difference is that users can decide where to place apps in that grid, and while Apple guides them, it doesn't force apps into the next available slot in the grid.

https://appleinsider.com/articles/24/06/11/how-ios-18-lets-you-neatly-rearrange-app-icons-and-home-screen-widgets

[-] Luna@hexbear.net 28 points 4 days ago

iOS didn't already do this? SERIOUSLY???

Graphene OS pixel stay winning

[-] TheDoctor@hexbear.net 22 points 4 days ago

Apple advertising its Ls

[-] LGOrcStreetSamurai@hexbear.net 18 points 4 days ago

"Cooking" would be a banned word. It means nothing.

[-] TheDoctor@hexbear.net 19 points 4 days ago
[-] LGOrcStreetSamurai@hexbear.net 17 points 4 days ago

I'm gonna need to see some solid culinary excellence before we start letting everyone cook. A time to charge is not culinary excellence, it's barely fundamentals.

[-] blame@hexbear.net 14 points 4 days ago

iirc apple computers used to do this but they removed it because it either wasnt very accurate or the accuracy got worse as the battery aged. Maybe the situation is better now.

[-] bazingabrain@hexbear.net 8 points 4 days ago

tbh theres no reason to buy those big stupid phones, you can buy used smartphones for dirt cheap, i got an iphone 8 for 70 bucks. Why would anyone need anything beyond that, i dont know, in fact i never understood why you should ever need more than one phone, ever. they should last a lifetime.

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[-] Sleazy_Albanese@hexbear.net 8 points 4 days ago

its probably due to a patent war. they would have liked to do it but didnt want to pay to license the feature.

[-] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 3 days ago

still waiting for a built in IR blaster on a $1000 phone

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