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[-] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 103 points 6 days ago

Ask them to explain the “joke” then once they finish say I didn’t find the joke funny.

[-] Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 41 points 6 days ago

I do this, but then I pick it apart to make it really painful.

[-] ericbomb@lemmy.world 31 points 6 days ago

"Oh, jokes just normally have a punchline and aren't just stating something really backwards"

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They can't ever explain the joke, though.

[-] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 32 points 6 days ago

That's half the fun. Watching them squirm and try to figure out how to explain the joke without saying the -ism out loud when they realize they're not in "safe" company.

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[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 82 points 6 days ago

friend says fucked up shit, asks if you agree

"What? No. Shit no! I believe you get your ass kicked for saying shit like that."

[-] Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 29 points 6 days ago

Nah. Don't wait for them to ask. Tell them they are being an asshat. It's good for them

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[-] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 18 points 6 days ago

Sounds like someone has a case of the Mondays

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[-] Agent641@lemmy.world 58 points 6 days ago
  1. Slight lean back

  2. Expression of baffled disgust

  3. Quietly: "The fuck?"

Cuts deep

[-] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 20 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

If you're especially non-confrontational, then even the first one, or 0 reaction, can do. Just don't do the polite chuckle. They'll think it landed.

I have to work really hard not to laugh myself, and instead let it be awkward.

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[-] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 22 points 5 days ago

"I won't let you talk to them that way" is a bad one that doesn't belong on this list. It implies you're in control of them, which you're not. It's essentially a bluff, and if they call it, you need to be able to beat them up.

To add more good phrases to this list, the phrases need to imply that the person still has their own agency (because they do), and that it's just a dipshit way to use that agency. The other phrases are great.

[-] callyral@pawb.social 29 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

You don't need to be cisgender, heterosexual, male or white to call people out on their bigoted beliefs.

Edit: if you are in those categories you're more likely to be taken more seriously by other cishet white men. I think I understand the point of the original post now.

[-] Dasus@lemmy.world 17 points 5 days ago

No, but bigoted, cisgendered, heterosexual white men are probably more likely to listen to other cisgendered heterosexual white men due to their bigotry.

Someone disagreeing within Chad Junior's very narrow social circle will mean more to him than someone outside of the circle, especially if that person is also unlike Chad Junior in several ways. Unfortunate as it is.

[-] Ohmmy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 5 days ago

In my experience that is almost never the case. They'll just call you a liberal soyboy or something and never think on it further.

[-] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago

Definitely. It's just an amplifier. Imagine a protestor saying "too many cops are violent and need to cool it", as opposed to a cop saying "too many cops are violent and need to cool it"

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[-] Kit@lemmy.blahaj.zone 53 points 6 days ago

"Bro, not cool." With a stern look always sets the homies straight.

[-] wise_pancake@lemmy.ca 53 points 6 days ago

Honestly I haven’t had to say something in almost a decade

[-] Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 52 points 6 days ago

You're hanging out with the right people

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 46 points 6 days ago

It's all about where you live and what you look like.

I'm a huge white dude in a red state, I've been getting hit on by nazis since before I was a teenager because I look like their "ideal".

Like, when they picture their "master race" it's what I look like, so they always fucking assume I'll agree with any side comment they make.

If you're not in a super blue area, you're not hearing stuff because something identifies you as "them" and not "us". But even in blue areas I'll hear shit.

[-] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 27 points 6 days ago

I’m a white American immigrant in Germany. The shit people say to me about immigrants, which they then walk back with “but not you, you’re one of the good ones,” is infuriating.

[-] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 40 points 6 days ago

My personal go-to is, “They’re a human being, just like you.”

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[-] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 21 points 5 days ago

These comments, yeesh. I am a cis white dude, and I don't see how this post is offensive. As I've gotten older and more self-confident, I absolutely call people out for their garbage opinions/statements. Being a cis/straight/white dude it happens all the time that somebody says something racist/sexist/homophobic in front of me assuming I'll be sympathetic. I've used all these "scripts" and encourage you all to use them also.

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[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 16 points 5 days ago

"What the fuck" with a disgusted look is my go to.

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 28 points 6 days ago

So Mexican dudes can't say these things, eh? Only white dudes, and only if they're straight?

[-] Agent641@lemmy.world 17 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

You need to add 'ese' to the end of it.

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[-] Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 13 points 5 days ago

My 'hey, you're being a fuck stick' detector doesn't discriminate, despite what my stolen meme says

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[-] aviationeast@lemmy.world 28 points 6 days ago

What the fuck is wrong with you?

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[-] kindenough@kbin.earth 23 points 6 days ago

Pfff. Everytime my father in law goes on a racist diatribe I tell him, "Mustafa is what now?". He is my Egyptian brother in law and the kindest and hospitable person I know.

I also very dislike my father in law, used to be a somewhat good guy, then he got old and racist.

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[-] A7thStone@lemmy.world 24 points 6 days ago

I told a coworker they were "full of shit" then repeated that when they said "what?"

[-] felsiq@lemmy.zip 9 points 5 days ago

ITT: a lot of people reading this to be specifically and only for cis white men, but they’re talking about the power any in-group member has to shut down bigoted shit and that’s what we should be focusing on. In a space where the biggest in-group is black women this post would be about them, but the most common “in-group” (disproportionately so) is white cis men so that’s who they mention. If this is making you feel attacked or targeted then please set aside that part of it and don’t discard the actual message, because this is honestly something everyone should think about.

Anytime you’re accepted somewhere, whether in public or among strangers, you have a lot of social power when it comes to setting the tone of conversation - one loud idiot can make a space feel extremely hostile to an outsider, and if everybody gives a polite laugh instead of speaking up that idiot learns saying things like that is okay and the “outsider” learns they’re not truly welcome. Literally one person who speaks up instead of letting it fly can solve this - the message is to be that person, not to attack anyone in particular.

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[-] AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 11 points 5 days ago

The "do you hear yourself right now?" is a good one, gonna use it well

[-] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 21 points 6 days ago

My go-to is "Why do you think that is an okay thing to say?"

[-] Sgt_choke_n_stroke@lemmy.world 19 points 6 days ago

That why calling out people for being weird worked

[-] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 10 points 5 days ago

I'm going to use all of these except the "I won't let you" because that could trigger the right wing persecution complex, and/or sound like fighting words.

I want them to think normal people (not me tbh) are put off by their weird shit.

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[-] theneverfox@pawb.social 5 points 5 days ago

Nah, there's nothing louder than silence.

Wipe all expression from your face, and stare at them. Maybe just an expression of incredulity if this is out of character for them. That's all it takes.

Bystanders will literally stop what they're doing and watch. Their brains will scream "I'm about to be excluded from the group", and they'll start babbling. They'll confess their sins and be harsher on themselves than anything you could say

If you don't like their next words, give them nothing. Literally don't respond, anything you give them is closure. Don't give them closure, move on with your life - they can't.

Don't give them judgement, give them nothing. If you judge them, they can turn themselves into a victim or you into an enemy... Without a response, the only enemy is themselves, because they will crave your approval.

It's like a teacher staring down a student who keeps talking until the whole class is looking at them, except they don't know what to do to make it stop. So they try anything and wrack their brain for a solution. It seriously freaks people out

Note: this is less likely to work against neurodivergent people, they'll just be confused. That's how I learned to do this - I got annoyed and straight up asked a therapist why they kept staring at me when I was done talking. They explained the concept of a pregnant pause, and so I started using it.

And acquaintances started telling me how they were abused to explain their behavior and strangers started confessing how they cheated on their partners out of nowhere.

I get a lot of long apology emails the day after someone wrongs me, I now make an effort to give closure to everyone I like early and often.

Humans are tortured by this

[-] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 12 points 5 days ago

Even a simple "bruh" can help.

[-] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 13 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

There's one thing I really don't understand. And this question has no agenda except that I would like to. Also if I use the word "he" inappropriately, please for the sake of the question let that slide...

Say a woman transitions to a man. He's a man now, right? So why is it necessary that he be called trans and someone who was born a man be called cis? I mean if the goal is equality, and it should be, why should we know or care which is the case? And the same question goes for cis/trans women.

[-] shneancy@lemmy.world 33 points 6 days ago

most of the times the difference between me and a cis man is not important, so i simply say i'm a man. Sometimes the difference is important, and then i clarify i'm a trans man

90% of the time and most people i meet will have no idea i'm transgender, the other 10 are doctors, people i want to have sex with, and those i've talked with about trans experiences

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[-] duckythescientist@sh.itjust.works 13 points 6 days ago

Using the cis/trans labels are good when the experiences are different in some important way or it's worth pointing out for some reason. Often it's just better to refer to both cis and trans men as just "men" and cis and trans women as just "women". It depends on the context. These online forums tend to be rather political or tied to identity in a way that a lot of more real life conversations won't be. The cis and trans labels can probably be left off more often in real life than you see them used here.

It's just useful terminology. It comes up when it comes up.

I don't spend much time calling my girl friends trans-her, if that's what you're asking.

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[-] Amanduh@lemm.ee 10 points 5 days ago

I play a lot of rocket league and the kids love homophobic slurs, I just call them pathetic.

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