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I'd posit that the entirety of the US is illegitimate, but it is amusing that people who believe in adhering to every single letter in a document authored 250 years ago are taken remotely seriously
Yes but if your entire intelligence plusca few high end gpu's are turned to the task of justifying whatever you currently feel, and that is the entire purpose of everything in the world, then you can totally pick and choose.
They really are brilliantly stupid, and I mean it when I say that.
the arguably unconstitutional United States of America
How tf is an amendment illegitimate? It’s an amendment. It amends the constitution
I’m going to introduce an amendment to the constitution that reads, “this amendment is unconstitutional”. Boom. Instant constitutional crisis.
paradoxical constitutional shenanigans let's goooo
“This amendment makes the constitution unconstitutional”
Checkmate libs
Yes but see its inconvenient for me, so, you know.
Illegitimate.
Yeah buddy sure. You vs a Supreme Court justice. Who am I supposed to believe?
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: https://www.valleydude70.com/blog-1/2020/9/29/amy-comey-barrett-and-the-fourteenth-amendment
If they claim the 14th is illegitimate but make no such claim about the 13th and 15th, it's just what @urmums401k said. If they claim all 3 are illegitimate they're a fucking confederate sympathizer and should be tarred and feathered as such
no this is great because if original popular sovereignty is the basis of legitimacy then she's definitely endorsing the idea that the united states itself is completely illegitimate. the constitution was imposed on the american people without the support of the necessary supermajority of those same people, since a supermajority of them were explicitly denied enfranchisement by that very constitution.
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If I were a us supreme court justice in 2024 I would be pretty careful when throwing around words like ‘illegitimate.’
Just 2024?
Since what, 1801?
Pretty sure she's just saying an originalist would have to oppose the existence of West Virginia to be ideologically consistent. Expecting any American politician to have an ideology is lib shit though
Yeah Antonin Scalia was a textualist until he wasn't, until he was again, until he wasn't.
claims to be an originalist
does judicial review
Listen everything Scalia wrote was ideologically consistent because it used the same verbiage as Bush V Gore, "limited to present circumstances".
ah, a personal favorite,
this ruling sets no precedent because I decided it doesn't
The kind of thing produced by a very real and legitimate court system and definitely not just 9 unaccountable, unelected elders making decisions on a whim.
But remember, we can't stack the court with 50 zoomer maoists because people would "lose faith" in the "institutions".
John Roberts' SCOTUS will be remembered as the implements of America's downfall.
Every "originalist"/"textualist" is this way. It's an inherently dishonest position based entirely on finding any excuse to push reaction through the judiciary.
until he wasn't
How long until she declares the Louisiana Purchase unconstitutional at this rate? 
I don't really see why. Multiple states had previously been split from existing states without controversy (including Kentucky also split from Virginia). All that's required is the approval of the state legislature and Congress. The Virginia state legislature as recognized by Congress and the President voted to allow the counties of West Virginia to leave and form their own state. Congress and the President approved.
49 state flag vendors salivating
They haven't been this horned up since the 248 days before the admission of Hawaii in 1959.
I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missourah
A square number of stars in a square field is the only thing that makes sense and one of the states has to go as a result. It's not just in the constitution it's in the way the flag itself was designed!!
The Supreme Clerics of America divine truth from our holy text, it's says, be more racist.
I'll be in the cold hard ground before I recognise missourah
critical support
President Xi, the people of western Virginia yearn for freedom
West Virginiastan Independence Movement
This is the medium domino in the chain that leads to the full cardinality of Virginia.
"western virginia" breaks the meter of Country Roads 
"West Makaha" doesn't and that version's better anyway 
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Fourteenth Amendment:
All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.
...I feel like the lede's being buried here; are these crackers really talking about tryna denaturalize people born here???? Oh my god please denaturalize me so I don't have to pay the exit taxes.
Here's a more complete screenshot of the original showing the footnotes on the page:
The article being referenced in note 4 is https://scholarlycommons.law.northwestern.edu/nulr/vol107/iss4/3/. The argument being made is:
That said, given the news about deportation going around, a judge in SCOTUS that had previously questioned the legitimacy of the 14th Amendment could be a problem...
What i don't get about this whole though.. like if someone is born here, and their parents wer both born here. How do you revoke their citizenship and deport them. Where to? Nearest available non American born ancestors? My great grandmother is German. Would they deport me to Germany? How would any other country react to people being deported there with no ties to that country?
What i do get is they're going to have to set up some sort of internment camp to put all of these reporters while they sort out those details...
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Please provide a link to the source of this
Which was linked from here: https://www.valleydude70.com/blog-1/2020/9/29/amy-comey-barrett-and-the-fourteenth-amendment
(I am not the OP)
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