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[-] SacredExcrement@hexbear.net 77 points 1 year ago

I'd posit that the entirety of the US is illegitimate, but it is amusing that people who believe in adhering to every single letter in a document authored 250 years ago are taken remotely seriously

[-] urmums401k@hexbear.net 25 points 1 year ago

Yes but if your entire intelligence plusca few high end gpu's are turned to the task of justifying whatever you currently feel, and that is the entire purpose of everything in the world, then you can totally pick and choose.

They really are brilliantly stupid, and I mean it when I say that.

[-] kittin@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago

the arguably unconstitutional United States of America

[-] FloridaBoi@hexbear.net 62 points 1 year ago

How tf is an amendment illegitimate? It’s an amendment. It amends the constitution

[-] TheDoctor@hexbear.net 40 points 1 year ago

I’m going to introduce an amendment to the constitution that reads, “this amendment is unconstitutional”. Boom. Instant constitutional crisis.

[-] comrade_pibb@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago

paradoxical constitutional shenanigans let's goooo

[-] FloridaBoi@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago

“This amendment makes the constitution unconstitutional”

Checkmate libs

[-] urmums401k@hexbear.net 35 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yes but see its inconvenient for me, so, you know.

Illegitimate.

[-] CoolerOpposide@hexbear.net 33 points 1 year ago

Yeah buddy sure. You vs a Supreme Court justice. Who am I supposed to believe?

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[-] YoungSheldonAdelson@hexbear.net 55 points 1 year ago

If I were a us supreme court justice in 2024 I would be pretty careful when throwing around words like ‘illegitimate.’

[-] CoolerOpposide@hexbear.net 33 points 1 year ago
[-] Parzivus@hexbear.net 52 points 1 year ago

Pretty sure she's just saying an originalist would have to oppose the existence of West Virginia to be ideologically consistent. Expecting any American politician to have an ideology is lib shit though

[-] _pi@lemmy.ml 45 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah Antonin Scalia was a textualist until he wasn't, until he was again, until he wasn't.

[-] Wheaties@hexbear.net 58 points 1 year ago

claims to be an originalist

does judicial review

very-intelligent

[-] _pi@lemmy.ml 33 points 1 year ago

Listen everything Scalia wrote was ideologically consistent because it used the same verbiage as Bush V Gore, "limited to present circumstances".

[-] Wheaties@hexbear.net 37 points 1 year ago

ah, a personal favorite,

this ruling sets no precedent because I decided it doesn't

The kind of thing produced by a very real and legitimate court system and definitely not just 9 unaccountable, unelected elders making decisions on a whim.

[-] barrbaric@hexbear.net 19 points 1 year ago

But remember, we can't stack the court with 50 zoomer maoists because people would "lose faith" in the "institutions".

[-] Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

John Roberts' SCOTUS will be remembered as the implements of America's downfall.

[-] buckykat@hexbear.net 32 points 1 year ago

Every "originalist"/"textualist" is this way. It's an inherently dishonest position based entirely on finding any excuse to push reaction through the judiciary.

[-] edge@hexbear.net 21 points 1 year ago

until he wasn't

crab-party

[-] Findom_DeLuise@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago

How long until she declares the Louisiana Purchase unconstitutional at this rate? sicko-intrigued

[-] edge@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I don't really see why. Multiple states had previously been split from existing states without controversy (including Kentucky also split from Virginia). All that's required is the approval of the state legislature and Congress. The Virginia state legislature as recognized by Congress and the President voted to allow the counties of West Virginia to leave and form their own state. Congress and the President approved.

[-] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 38 points 1 year ago

49 state flag vendors salivating

[-] regul@hexbear.net 22 points 1 year ago

They haven't been this horned up since the 248 days before the admission of Hawaii in 1959.

[-] OperationOgre@hexbear.net 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missourah

[-] mathemachristian@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago

A square number of stars in a square field is the only thing that makes sense and one of the states has to go as a result. It's not just in the constitution it's in the way the flag itself was designed!!

[-] Thorngraff_Ironbeard@hexbear.net 33 points 1 year ago

The Supreme Clerics of America divine truth from our holy text, it's says, be more racist.

[-] Bureaucrat@hexbear.net 21 points 1 year ago

I'll be in the cold hard ground before I recognise missourah

[-] coeliacmccarthy@hexbear.net 19 points 1 year ago
[-] CoolerOpposide@hexbear.net 25 points 1 year ago

President Xi, the people of western Virginia yearn for freedom

[-] coeliacmccarthy@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago

West Virginiastan Independence Movement

[-] Zoift@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago

This is the medium domino in the chain that leads to the full cardinality of Virginia.

[-] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago

"western virginia" breaks the meter of Country Roads sadness

[-] buckykat@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago

"West Makaha" doesn't and that version's better anyway israel-cool

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[-] frauddogg@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago

Fourteenth Amendment:

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.

...I feel like the lede's being buried here; are these crackers really talking about tryna denaturalize people born here???? Oh my god please denaturalize me so I don't have to pay the exit taxes.

[-] ThermonuclearEgg@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Here's a more complete screenshot of the original showing the footnotes on the page:

The article being referenced in note 4 is https://scholarlycommons.law.northwestern.edu/nulr/vol107/iss4/3/. The argument being made is:

That said, given the news about deportation going around, a judge in SCOTUS that had previously questioned the legitimacy of the 14th Amendment could be a problem...

[-] Razzazzika@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

What i don't get about this whole though.. like if someone is born here, and their parents wer both born here. How do you revoke their citizenship and deport them. Where to? Nearest available non American born ancestors? My great grandmother is German. Would they deport me to Germany? How would any other country react to people being deported there with no ties to that country?

What i do get is they're going to have to set up some sort of internment camp to put all of these reporters while they sort out those details...

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[-] carpoftruth@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago

Please provide a link to the source of this

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