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[-] Gosplan14_the_Third@hexbear.net 77 points 1 month ago

it's amazing how Reddit in 2024 and Reddit in 2014 are exactly the same

[-] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 54 points 1 month ago

Liberalism. Liberalism never changes.

[-] FourteenEyes@hexbear.net 34 points 1 month ago

When they're incapable of personal growth it's not surprising at all

[-] BashfulBob@hexbear.net 69 points 1 month ago

Georgia: We're holding a referendum on joining the EU. Please select from the following options

  • President Olaf Scholtz, my country yearns for freedom. Please send in the ECB to liberate my people.

  • I am a Russian apparatchik. My vote doesn't count.

Oh my goodness, the election has been rigged by Russian interference. Time to send in the tanks and defeat the Tankies.

[-] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 66 points 1 month ago
[-] invo_rt@hexbear.net 54 points 1 month ago

Reminder that the Finnish air force had the sw*stika on their flag until 2017!!! hitler-detector

[-] barrbaric@hexbear.net 28 points 1 month ago

Hey they weren't nazis, they only added the swastika at the suggestion of Hermann Goering's brother-in-law! It's entirely unrelated!

[-] StillNoLeftLeft@hexbear.net 25 points 1 month ago

This is also still framed as not the swastika: I and everyone I know have asked the serious adults when we were kids: "Why is there a swastika in the air force flag?"

And we have all gotten the same splain about how it: "AcHuAlly is not the swastika at all, because it is the other way around and has been used here far longer and for other reasons than the nazis used it, so it's different."

This is even taught this way in schools. Whatever it takes to keep history buried.

I sometimes struggle to communicate how thoroughly history and all actual events have been disappeared from consciousness here, but this is a good example.

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[-] Bureaucrat@hexbear.net 19 points 1 month ago

Yeah but they got it before the nazis got it so that makes it totally fine even if it was at the behest of a nazi

[-] Biggay@hexbear.net 15 points 1 month ago

The very same nazi who got it adopted by Hitler too. Its really all just i-am-adolf-hitler all the way down.

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[-] Krem@hexbear.net 27 points 1 month ago

in a slightly more tolerable timeline, the soviet soldiers shot those grandfathers in the balls, and one less insufferable euro redditor was born

[-] StillNoLeftLeft@hexbear.net 25 points 1 month ago

Ffs this Lord of Unseriousness thinks the EU, which Finland joined after we got our shock treatment and neoliberalism in the 90s, is what kept us safe. Amazing EU, keeps you safe also in the past!

[-] REEEEvolution@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

How can something be kept a thing when it never was in the first place? That person has very rose tinted knowledge of history.

[-] ManFreakBeast@hexbear.net 57 points 1 month ago

Most Libs don't really care if a color revolution is CIA backed, they think it's a good thing.

[-] TechnoUnionTypeBeat@hexbear.net 41 points 1 month ago

Revolution and independence movements are only good if they're to join the West otherwise it's an evil anti-American movement created by Putin/Xi us-foreign-policy

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[-] plinky@hexbear.net 44 points 1 month ago

January 6th when it's in periphery country ironicat

[-] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 17 points 1 month ago

I was about to say "so the libs would have been cool with Jan 6 if the chuds had been hoisting the EU flag?"

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[-] jackmarxist@hexbear.net 38 points 1 month ago

Well these new color revolutions are the last tools for the dying empire aside from total war. If BRICS manages to counter these then they would move another step towards victory.

[-] dkr567@hexbear.net 36 points 1 month ago

Reminds me of Hong Kong riots in 2019, just replace the pos EU flag with the pos union jack/US flag.

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[-] Kieselguhr@hexbear.net 34 points 1 month ago

Friendly reminder when talking to libs about Georgia:

even the EU thinks Georgia started the war against Russia

"In the Mission's view, it was Georgia which triggered off the war when it attacked Tskhinvali (in South Ossetia) with heavy artillery on the night of 7 to 8 August 2008," said Swiss diplomat Heidi Tagliavini, who led the investigation.
The report said the war followed tensions and provocations by Russia, but Tagliavini said: "None of the explanations given by the Georgian authorities in order to provide some form of legal justification for the attack lend it a valid explanation."
Saakashvili had said Georgia was responding to an invasion by Russian forces when it attacked breakaway South Ossetia, but the report found no evidence of this. It said Russia's counter-strike was initially legal, but its military response violated international law when Russian forces pushed into Georgia proper. "Although it should be admitted that it is not easy to decide where the line must be drawn, it seems, however, that much of the Russian military action went far beyond the reasonable limits of defense," the report said.

[-] RomCom1989@hexbear.net 33 points 1 month ago

I don't dispute it being one,but you have to understand there are young people that are that europilled

You don't understand until you live in a post Warsaw Pact country,but the youth has a sizeable Atlanticist contingent

[-] Kieselguhr@hexbear.net 23 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

This is 100% right.

The CIA greases and amplifies, sometimes organizes, but there are many people who honestly believe that the west is a force for capital G Good. They unironically believe that there is a rules based international order led by Western Europe and Washington.

US cultural hegemony is just that strong.

That's why any sane country would fight NED just as much as the actual CIA.

It's ridiculous how normalized it is among Eastern European liberals that liberal journalists get invited to US State Department programs. These same people would concoct the wildest kompromat conspiracy theories if a West-critical journo ever visited the Hermitage or the Great Wall on a vacation.

And that's why there was a ruckus about NGOs in Georgia.

[-] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 33 points 1 month ago

blob-no-thoughts I have no idea what's going on

[-] Bureaucrat@hexbear.net 40 points 1 month ago

Just know that reddit supports it. It's like geopolitics for online people - if reddit likes it, it's bad

[-] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 35 points 1 month ago
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[-] Frank@hexbear.net 29 points 1 month ago

Does NATO have the juice for all these projects? Ukraine, Palestine, Syria, Georgia, and then everything else everywhere else?

[-] plinky@hexbear.net 9 points 1 month ago

i mean they just send money, what's to lose

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[-] thetaT@hexbear.net 24 points 1 month ago
[-] Piment@hexbear.net 20 points 1 month ago

this is a really basic questsion, but what do you think of this protest?

[-] thetaT@hexbear.net 14 points 1 month ago

it is so very clearly a western-backed attempt at counterrevolution. no other way to put it. the west used their NGOs and people with influence that they installed to organize these protests and to coerce university students to go to the protests.

[-] Kieselguhr@hexbear.net 15 points 1 month ago

Is it really the consensus that the election was cheated? What do you think?

[-] thetaT@hexbear.net 15 points 1 month ago

it's just the opposition being salty. even "international observers" cannot claim that the election was stolen. the opposition can't cope with the fact that their base of support is just a loud minority in the country and that in reality they're very small.

https://xcancel.com/sopjap/status/1851703891727126946

if you want to get the best info about the elections, i'd recommend giving this thread a read. actually, if you want to stay up to date on Georgia from an anti-imperialist, socialist source, give Sopo Japaridze a follow.

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[-] Cysioland@lemmygrad.ml 23 points 1 month ago

It's refreshing to see this here after coming from /r/Polska and seeing them bootlick so hard

[-] grandepequeno@hexbear.net 20 points 1 month ago

Or the fact that a democratically elected neutralist government (by the procedural standards of what "the rules based order" deems democratic) is being violently overthrown by goons

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[-] sgtlion@hexbear.net 16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

~~Putin's vicious anti democratic genocidal land grab given to oligarchs~~ Our glorious not-quite-elected Nazi-supporting coup acceding to western ownership and bought by major investors

[-] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 9 points 1 month ago

All this over some apartments being built by Russians? Lmao

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