Microsoft wins FTC fight to buy Activision Blizzard : gaming

[-] Neato@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

This is a loss for consumers. Massive consolidation, lack of competition. Get ready for them to pull games from PlayStation as soon as they are contractually allowed to. Get ready for everything to be on Game Pass and possibly not on Steam. Worst case: they disable purchasing some games on Game Pass so you always need a subscription.

[-] ampersandrew@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

They (both Microsoft and ActiBlizz) pulled games from Steam before, and they're both back on Steam well ahead of this deal. I don't see why that would change.
We've now seen through court documents and transcripts what many of us suspected in that many of these games and studios that Microsoft purchased for exclusivity were Sony targets for exclusivity as well, so if we had to pick one, the company trailing in the market sounds like the better one to get them as exclusives.
I can only see this as better for competition than Sony running away with the high-end console market, because then there's realistically only one console to buy.
All that said about the above, fuck exclusivity in general.

[-] TwilightVulpine@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

I see a lot of people using argument #2 and it's really short-sighted to treat acquisition the same as exclusivity deals. However much I don't like either, acquisitions are clearly worse. If you had to pick one, why would you wouldn't just leave it as case-by-case exclusivity deals?

Say, SquareEnix and Atlus are fully capable of releasing games for other consoles even with all the exclusives they release for Playstation. And nothing stopped Microsoft from waving a wad of cash their way to change their minds.

There is absolutely no way such a large acquisition will be better for competition. The publishers become unable to make their own platform decisions, no matter what benefits there are. You are losing sight of the market as a whole and the independence of studios by focusing exclusively on who gets the #1 console crown.

[-] Neato@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

so if we had to pick one,

Did we, though? Or maybe FTC could prevent further consolidation that will eventually result (and is already) in anticompetitive practices?

I can only see this as better for competition than Sony running away with the high-end console market, because then there's realistically only one console to buy.

So now your choices will be: 1) pick the console that has more of your favorite games, or 2) now you have to buy BOTH consoles.

Fucking brilliant.

[-] ampersandrew@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

If you felt like you had to buy both consoles, that means the market got more competitive.

[-] Neato@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Competition means there's choice. Segregating titles that were once across multiple platforms (choice) into individual platforms (no choice) is anti-competitive.

I can't really break it down more than that and I thought this was obvious...

[-] ampersandrew@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

You do have choice. You have choice between group of exclusives A and group of exclusives B. It's better for competition but worse for the consumer. In order for it to be better for the consumer and competition, you'd need to eliminate the concept of exclusives entirely. And I'm all for that, but I don't know how to make that happen.

[-] Neato@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

It's better for competition but worse for the consumer.

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[-] thoro@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago

Well since exclusives will continue to exist, imagine if, hear me out here, third party titles remained cross platform and group B developed their own set of games at worst through infant studio acquisitions instead of, idk, acquiring the second largest third party publisher in the world (and thus all their studios).

[-] ampersandrew@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Then that would be decidedly less competitive between the two consoles.

[-] thoro@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago

Yeah the poor trillion dollar company couldn't possibly compete with the billion dollar company by organically building an attractive portfolio. It's not like they did it before and only lost their position due to their own mishandling of studios and misunderstanding of the market.

[-] ampersandrew@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

They seemingly can't compete, so this is how they're making up for the ground that they lost, because right now the console market is not particularly competitive.

[-] Hdcase@beehaw.org 0 points 1 year ago

Microsoft creates demand for their system largely by buying up publishers and turning all their future games exclusive, that would otherwise have been multiplatform.

Sony and Nintendo create demand for their system largely by making great games in house, that otherwise never would have existed.

So yes you're right but one is much shittier than the other.

[-] ampersandrew@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

The games made in house are functionally identical to buying a studio that already existed. It's a game that can't be played anywhere else for arbitrary business reasons. I'd consider Sony's shittier, because I have to wait two years for a PC port, and Nintendo's shittier still because those games will never legally leave their platform.

[-] Katana314@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

The "pick one" mentality may come from the inherent freedom of Activision's owners. They don't see any further way for the publisher to grow, so they seek the next logical outcome for themselves: Acquisition. That's always going to come from a company large enough to be a major force in video games.

"Pick neither" is telling them they are not allowed to do anything with their company.

[-] Neato@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

They could grow by making more games that sell well. More offshoot studios so they can have more parallel production.

If the ONLY way they can grow is to consolidate, then they are as big as they are going to get then. Tough titties. They have a minor duty to shareholders to turn a profit, not to grow at all costs. That's the problem with current capitalism and will lead to effective monopolies.

[-] EvaUnit02@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

I'm opposed to this acquisition but let's be clear: Activision doesn't have a "minor duty to shareholders". They have a fiduciary duty to shareholders.

[-] Saganastic@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

This can't be any worse than the pile of shit blizzard became, and Activision had always been.

[-] Neato@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

If they are truly a pile of shit, then they should fail. MS just wants 2 things: 1) big name games to drive purchase of their console, 2) that sweeeeet MTX money from CoD and King.

[-] Saganastic@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

Maybe MS will make starcraft 3. That's the dream.

[-] Stovetop@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Warcraft 4 would be nice, too.

[-] ArugulaZ@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Nah, I don't see things this way. Microsoft has been generous with its IP, in contrast to Sony, which keeps its games (and third party games, as was the case with Street Fighter 5) exclusive. Microsoft has licensed its biggest titles to the Switch and even the Playstation 4, and it has a history of cross-platform publishing that goes back decades. For instance, games in the Banjo-Kazooie series were released for the Game Boy Advance and Nintendo DS. There's no reason to believe Microsoft will change that strategy, especially with the Xbox Series lagging so far behind its competitors in sales.

If Microsoft suddenly tightens the reins on its IP, consumers will spite them for it. After the Xbox One debacle, they know better than to force unwanted changes to the status quo of this industry.

[-] TwilightVulpine@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Microsoft went P2W when it shoulda just git gud smh

[-] Sabata11792@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

With how shitty Blizzard has been the past few years, this may be a positive. I'm not saying I trust Microsoft but I certainly don't trust Blizzard to anything outside of Warcraft anymore. They even mess that up every other expansion.

[-] TwilightVulpine@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

The one good thing that might come from this is a change in their abusive work environment

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