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Is it really possible they'll find an entire dozen people who've never been fucked over by health insurance to preside as jurors over this case?

It's my understanding that the defense and prosecutor both must agree on the selection of jurors. In such a high profile case where the defendant is clearly in the right, is it really possible they'll find the requisite 12 people who've not only been living under a rock these past couple weeks, but also have what's essentially a "neutral stupid" character alignment?

Luigi himself seems to be on this same train of thought given he turned himself in. He had several days to destroy the evidence, but instead he went to McDonalds while cosplaying as the Adjuster, carrying the gun on his person. Surely this implies he won't take a plea deal, right?

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[-] Xiisadaddy@lemmygrad.ml 40 points 1 week ago

No offense but youre too online. There are definitely plenty of braindead bootlickers in America for them to find 12. They just arent the people online talking about it. I mean just look at the boomer who called in the tip.

[-] invalidusernamelol@hexbear.net 16 points 1 week ago

The boomer actually went on record saying he didn't call in the tip and it was an employee that overheard him talking to his friends that called it in

[-] a_little_red_rat@hexbear.net 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Random thought, but is that something that could get somebody in trouble? Plainly admitting that you saw a person of interest but that you decided not to do shit about it. Like, could they charge with some shit like "obstruction of justice" if you simply just don't do anything.

I understand that you can always say "nah man I never realized it was the guy" but what if you say "I knew it was him but I didn't call that in bc I wanted him to get away"?

[-] invalidusernamelol@hexbear.net 6 points 1 week ago

Depends on if they want to try and hit you with an aiding and abetting charge. You can be convicted of that if someone tells you about a crime that they want to commit and you don't say anything.

I'm this case, it would be hard to prove because he could just fallback to "I didn't know if it was him, just thought he was a lookalike" in court and just say he was clout chasing to the press which is absolutely not illegal.

You can lie all you want outside of court.

You'd be in more trouble if you then told him the cops were coming and helped him get away.

[-] cosecantphi@hexbear.net 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Yeah but the defense needs to agree with the prosecutor on jury selection, meaning it's going to be difficult to ensure all twelve members are the worst of the bootlicking chuds. Only one decent person needs to slip through the cracks to cause a mistrial. Leftists who don't constantly overdose on civility fetishism are certainly not numerous in the west, but I have to hold out hope we (and those who sympathize with us) comprise at least one twelfth the population.

[-] Redcuban1959@hexbear.net 29 points 1 week ago

They will probably find some libs or chuds who believe "Sure, healthcare is bad in America. But there are laws and rules, and he broke them, there are other ways to attack the ceo, like suing the company" or whatever these people believe.

[-] duderium@hexbear.net 27 points 1 week ago

Never underestimate the ability of americans to fuck things up.

[-] volcel_olive_oil@hexbear.net 20 points 1 week ago

a completely normal unsuspicious all-CEO jury

[-] AmericaDeserved711@hexbear.net 17 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

the jury's job is to determine whether the prosecution has proved that the defendant committed the crime, not to decide whether the crime was justified or not. they will carefully select for jurors who respect legal decorum over their own personal feelings. they don't have to find 12 people who think the murder was bad, they just have to find 12 rules-followers, which isn't that hard - most people aren't interested in bucking the system.

but yes the defense is very much a part of the jury selection process too. I assume Luigi can afford good lawyers, so I'm not convinced it's a slam dunk for the prosecution, but I think there's a decent chance of a conviction

[-] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 17 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I wouldn't put it past them to have the Jury consist of rich assholes, especially Business owners and CEOs

[-] glimmer_twin@hexbear.net 17 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Well the grand jury indicted him, he’s gonna have to get lucky with the jurors I guess. Worked for OJ

[-] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 16 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

A grand jury would indict a ham sandwich

It's going to be a very interesting case when everything starts playing out

[-] carpoftruth@hexbear.net 12 points 1 week ago

everyone should indict ham sandwiches

vegan-liberation-rad

[-] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 12 points 1 week ago

If the ~~gloves~~ brows don't fit, you must acquit.

[-] ClimateChangeAnxiety@hexbear.net 10 points 1 week ago

Grand juries are imaginary bodies who only exist to indict people, they’ll indict anyone (except the rich and powerful)

[-] Dotcom@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 week ago

I’m sure he “kills himself” before it makes it to trial.

[-] MouthyHooker@hexbear.net 6 points 1 week ago

I cannot believe he has not been Epstein-ed yet. They may be waiting and hoping the media circus will die down.

[-] Cysioland@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 1 week ago

That would be too suspicious. They'll wait until he's in the clink at least

[-] marxisthayaca@hexbear.net 13 points 1 week ago

He fucked up having the gun and a confession on him (could be a plant). All the prosecution has to do is create a timeline of evidence from the six months he disappeared up until Wednesday of last week. He can also be charged for creating or having fake documents, and a host of other things.

Will it matter? He is probably going to live large with a fat commissary, if they don’t put him in solitary for the rest of his life.

There are plenty of funny outcomes like him making statements in court. Submitting denial claims by UHC into the record, and god knows what else.

[-] CthulhusIntern@hexbear.net 10 points 1 week ago

I think that, if this goes to trial, he will walk or get a very light sentence, simply because his family has money and can afford a good lawyer.

[-] CliffordBigRedDog@hexbear.net 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

No unless they were like the Rockefellers or something this guy is not seeing the light of day for the next 30 years at least

Ur not getting away with shooting a CEO in broad daylight

[-] stigsbandit34z@hexbear.net 8 points 1 week ago

He’s totally getting indicted and it’s actuallly extremely jokerfying to think about

He gets his sentence or whatever, the tide shifts to “holding CEOs accountable” through the existing system. Yeah everyone knows that private insurance is bad or whatever but it’s the best we got! And we better try our best to make these CEOs work for US! vote

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