This map from Netflix’s trilogy of Romantic Christmas films is hillarious (hexbear.net)

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A Christmas Prince, The Royal Wedding and The Royal Baby. (And the Princess Switch trilogy)

They’re about a woman from New York who falls in love with a prince from Europe and marries him.

I thought the country they live in is meant to be tiny like San Marino or Lichtenstein. And the film seems to suggest it’s the case, given they say Aldovia doesn’t have a military.

But this map (albeit from 1419) of Aldovia, Belgravia and Pengali, the latter being countries in a parallel in-universe project and a sequel would completely alter history if the countries were or are even a bit of the size.

Like obviously it’s a silly thing made for Americans who don’t understand the scale of Europe’s geography and history but it’s funny thinking about the historical ramifications.

What happened in either World Wars. Was Pengali part of the USSR? Or even further back with Napoleon or the 30 years war etc.

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[-] Bureaucrat@hexbear.net 24 points 1 week ago

Poland GONE. Bulgaria GONE. Hungary GONE. Belarus GONE. Ukraine mostly GONE. Yugoslavian nations GONE. Estonia partially GONE. Lithuania GONE. Georgia possibly GONE. Armenia possibly GONE. Azerbaijan? STILL AROUND. Greece partially GONE

[-] nohaybanda@hexbear.net 19 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

We’ve got Yugoslavia at home ass map

[-] Moss@hexbear.net 24 points 1 week ago

close enough, welcome back Austria-Hungary

[-] ComradeMonotreme@hexbear.net 21 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

It’s funny that kingdoms comparable to the Austrian-Hungarian empire and the Polish-Lithuanian commonwealth still exist in 2019 in this universe but are quaint holiday destinations not regional powers. I shit you not one of Aldovia’s main industries is Christmas ornaments.

[-] Moss@hexbear.net 7 points 1 week ago

Becoming a supplier of Christmas ornaments was the only way to save Austria Hungary

I love how little Americans know or care about Europe. There must be a significant portion of the audience of these movies who didn't know these countries are fake

[-] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 23 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Hiding a whole alternate history story in a shitty hallmark christmas movie is a good bit i-think-that

[-] context@hexbear.net 16 points 1 week ago

looking forward to the spinoff trilogy in which the aldovian aristocracy sees their chance to seize control by asserting the claims of the old deposed monarchy following the post-soviet collapse of belgravia s.s.r. so they get to do a liberal-monarchist anastasia restoration fantasy

[-] AntifaSuperWombat@hexbear.net 23 points 1 week ago

Found the original map. It’s by Henricus Hondius (1641) but it actually depicts ancient Europe.

https://sanderusmaps.com/our-catalogue/antique-maps/europe/general-and-large-regions/old-antique-map-of-europe-antique-by-henricus-hondius-26233

[-] Bureaucrat@hexbear.net 16 points 1 week ago

Lol they used the most basic "renaissance Europe" map they could find. This is the one you can find in almost every poster store that sells posters of maps, this is so funny

[-] AntifaSuperWombat@hexbear.net 13 points 1 week ago

The thing that confuses me is that it isn’t "renaissance Europe" but a depiction of Europe in antiquity. If they actually wanted a 15. century map, they could’ve gotten way better ones.

[-] Bureaucrat@hexbear.net 9 points 1 week ago

Yeah I didn't know how to phrase "map from 15th century depicting earlier europe"

[-] ComradeMonotreme@hexbear.net 14 points 1 week ago

Wow good eye

[-] AntifaSuperWombat@hexbear.net 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

doggirl-smug The diagonal "ASI" made it a lot easier.

[-] Xiisadaddy@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 1 week ago

That I on Asi is insane. Like we get it man you do caligraphy chill.

[-] ComradeMonotreme@hexbear.net 19 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Apparently someone did a medium article about this 5 years ago

https://michaelagold.medium.com/piecing-together-the-christmas-prince-timeline-8b51c3dfde45

Also all the actors cast as Pengali and use Chinese alphabet. Just wild.

[-] SoyViking@hexbear.net 18 points 1 week ago

Even in a fantasy world where Ukraine spans from sea to sea they're not getting Crimea back.

[-] huf@hexbear.net 18 points 1 week ago

but europe has some tiny countries that actually have real princes and shit. why not pick one of those for the movie?

shakespeare apparently wrote a play where bohemia had a sea coast. what is it with anglos?

[-] came_apart_at_Kmart@hexbear.net 15 points 1 week ago

because reality exists to service burger brain treat shows like this, not the other way around.

the people who watch this level of slop aren't looking for a documentary. they don't want to even learn one singular fact about the world. facts are nerds. they want to emotionally resonate like a tuning fork for several hours with the fleeting notion an 8 year might have while looking at a Disney drawn castle.

[-] jaywalker@hexbear.net 14 points 1 week ago

lmao did Hexbear just discover fiction today or something?

[-] imogen_underscore@hexbear.net 12 points 1 week ago

definitely see people on here frequently taking the anti-treat stuff to an extreme hyper-Maoist sort of level, as if all escapism is bad

[-] huf@hexbear.net 8 points 1 week ago

no but if the place is just set dressing and basically consists of a name, why not use andorra or liechtenstein? they both sound like fantasy names, they both have weird prince shit going on, and they both exist.

[-] Krem@hexbear.net 7 points 1 week ago

or at least do 10 seconds of bland worldbuilding and put it like a normal euro mircrostate principality, squeezed in between the borders of two or three normal countries. but nooo, some dumbass at netflix production dept just went "it's europe, the countries are over here, in the general europe area"

[-] huf@hexbear.net 7 points 1 week ago

i'm looking forward to movies set in Los Vangelis, Chadifornia in the USA. why not.

[-] jaywalker@hexbear.net 5 points 1 week ago

Someone else would be saying: "why didn't they just make up a fake country if they weren't going to do it right?" The people actually making this shit are probably just trying to pay rent and don't care, their bosses definitely don't care beyond making money, and I guess the people watching it don't either. You've probably thought about it more in these comments than any of them ever did.

[-] mathemachristian@hexbear.net 15 points 1 week ago

no military
captured half of istanbul

impressive

[-] Barabas@hexbear.net 15 points 1 week ago

Aldovia and Belgravia would be on par with France or Germany.

Pengali is a tier below but would still be a regional power.

[-] Chapo_is_Red@hexbear.net 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I want a 3 hour video essay exploring the history of the Christmas Prince cinematic universe and its points of divergence from our timeline.

[-] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 13 points 1 week ago

lmao what a line up of fictional monstrosities, might as well bring back the Ottomans and Austro-Hungary

[-] SteamedHamberder@hexbear.net 12 points 1 week ago

Pengali = Khazaria

[-] 2Password2Remember@hexbear.net 11 points 1 week ago

this universe is better than ours, purely because they don't have poland

Death to America

[-] ThermonuclearEgg@hexbear.net 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

This is counteracted by the existence of the Globus Polski, which is entirely Poland. ~~On the flip side, they don't have amerikkka I guess~~

[-] WeedReference420@hexbear.net 10 points 1 week ago

I already have a weird obsession with the Christmas Prince films and them seemingly being set in a semi Ace Combat style parallel universe is not going to help with that

[-] Deadend@hexbear.net 9 points 1 week ago

In the Christmas-verse I assume the entire world converted to Christianity and racism/slavery never happened. All conflicts were settled via gift contests.

Yet somehow, everything basically ended up in modern late-stage capitalism.

No, I’ve never seen these movies, but I played an hour of Infinite Nikki and I assume it all works the same way.

[-] GoodGuyWithACat@hexbear.net 8 points 1 week ago

To what degree did the Algovian monarchy cooperate with the Nazi occupation?

[-] infuziSporg@hexbear.net 8 points 1 week ago

No you see, we have to begin in the late 9th century... putin-wink

...where shortly after Christianization, there was a personal union between the First Bulgarian Empire and Greater Moravia. It first was an arrangement of necessity and mutual defense, but the marriage was unusually strong and long-lasting, and after 22 years upon the death of Stanceslas, his firstborn son Aldo I (later known as the Great) was elected by the Danubian nobles to serve as king of a permanently unified land.