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[-] Sickos@hexbear.net 57 points 4 months ago

Saying "nuclear reactor" when they mean FUSION is kinda burying the lede. Is it energy positive?

[-] kristina@hexbear.net 48 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Yes a q value of 1.53 and a goal of 10 by 2030 which is when it'll be commercially viable. Its already fantastic but they are currently working on reducing the cost of building a tokamak and increasing yields

Everyone has been naysaying to me about this for years on here but my finger is on the pulse, the Chinese are gonna do it some-controversy

[-] Gucci_Minh@hexbear.net 49 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

If anyone's gonna do it its China. They have the most to gain from reducing reliance on oil and gas imports, and they have the money, institutional knowledge, and manpower to do it.

I just think its funny that after all the effort expended on experimental designs over the past few decades it turns out the Tokamak is still the best one. USSR stay posthumously winning.

[-] Des@hexbear.net 27 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

i've been obsessively posting about it since this site started. china is going to dominate the world (in a good way) simply by mass producing commercial fusion reactors and selling them to every nation that wants them. and start a fusion fuel economy. it will be a net gain for everyone, unlike the fossil fuel economy.

my more crank prediction is a lot of their unmanned lunar research is part of a broad policy of looking for viable helium-3 sources.

[-] Gucci_Minh@hexbear.net 25 points 4 months ago

My prediction is the Americans will nuke everyone out of spite rather than see a human future where capitalism has no more leverage once fusion is viable.

[-] Des@hexbear.net 2 points 4 months ago

i mean i definitely think it's a possibility. if it goes down like that, especially in a fit of flipping the table, hopefully there will be some people in the chain of command that will defy orders

a limited nuclear temper tantrum followed by massive counter-force retaliation by the rest of the world would be horrific but at least we might make it to the other side.

and hey star trek

[-] sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 17 points 4 months ago

https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202406/1314447.shtml

There's no mention of the actual achieved Q value of the HH70.

The Q value of 1.53 you are here saying was achieved by HH70 is actually from an inertial confinement system that shoots lasers at tiny pellets, at the NIF (National Ignition Facility) of Lawrence Livermoore National Labs in 2022.

https://lasers.llnl.gov/science/achieving-fusion-ignition

3.15 MJ / 2.05 MJ = 1.5365...

This was widely reported in 2022 as the first time any kind of fusion system produced more energy than it took to operate.

They've since actually exceeded this, getting 5.14 MJ from a 2.2 MJ laser shot in Feb 2024, for a Q of 2.3636...

Anyway, yes Energy Singularity is aiming for a Q of 10 or greater (and so is ITER), but it is not Energy Singularity that has achieved 1.53 Q, that's the NIF.

If you could provide a source where Energy Singularity actually says any of it's achieved Q values, I'd appreciate it.

The actual thing being reported here about the HH70 is that it achieved energy discharge, aka, it was able to start up and maintain a contained plasma field.

... It is pretty funny that fusion reactors are being funded by gacha games though.

[-] edge@hexbear.net 13 points 4 months ago

Everyone has been naysaying to me about this for years on here but my finger is on the pulse, the Chinese are gonna do it

Reminds me of that game where you play as a post-revolutionary government trying to reverse climate change. It lets you research fusion and says there's some percent chance of getting it done, but it's actually coded to never work.

[-] muix@lemmy.sdf.org 11 points 4 months ago

half-earth socialism

[-] propter_hog@hexbear.net 5 points 4 months ago

Yeah! I have been extremely excited by fusion progress lately. It's like living through the industrial revolution, but it's the fusion revolution.

[-] Sickos@hexbear.net 31 points 4 months ago

Holy shit they say it is. Not, like, sustainable commercial levels, but damn

[-] kristina@hexbear.net 29 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

It hit a q value of 1.53 which means they got 50% more energy out. Their goal for commercial realization is a q value of 10, which they say will happen by 2030. This is Chinese for earlier than that because they love to set a far off date and achieve it earlier. They said the facility for that will be finished in 2027 so that's when I'd expect the real timeline to start.

[-] sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

No clue why you're giving the 1.53 Q value the NIF achieved in 2022 to this reactor which is only reporting that it succesfully turned on, with no mention of energy input vs output, but sure ok.

[-] sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 3 points 4 months ago

Nope, they do not say its energy positive (Q>1) anywhere.

They say it was ignited.

That means it successfully ignited, contained and maintained a plasma field for... some amount of time.

That is of course a huge accomplishment, but there is no mention of input vs output energy.

[-] graymess@hexbear.net 21 points 4 months ago

No fucking way. No actual fucking way. Nuclear fusion, unlimited clean energy, the potential to save the planet from climate disaster, made possible through the power of gamers gambling on big titty anime girls there is just no fucking way this is reality.

[-] FumpyAer@hexbear.net 10 points 4 months ago

The first tokamak was made by the Soviet union in 1956. It should go without saying that it wasn't energy positive, though.

[-] Sickos@hexbear.net 9 points 4 months ago

Deeply unserious timeline

[-] peppersky@hexbear.net 2 points 4 months ago

Unlimited "free" energy will doom this fucking planet. Thankfully this will never happen.

[-] Jenniferrr@hexbear.net 5 points 4 months ago

Very very very unlikely? We would have probably heard about it if it was

[-] SamotsvetyVIA@hexbear.net 40 points 4 months ago

Wanted to learn more and... "CNN did not receive a reply from China’s National Energy Administration when asked whether state-funded fusion research had copied or been inspired by US designs."

[-] Jenniferrr@hexbear.net 19 points 4 months ago

Lmao insane that they asked this in this context

[-] m532@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 4 months ago

CNN has sent in a silly letter

[-] ProletarianDictator@hexbear.net 7 points 4 months ago

Crybaby losers

[-] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 29 points 4 months ago

Not only is communism making good games, it's also providing clean energy. What's capitalism done besides be covered in shit and racism?

[-] SamotsvetyVIA@hexbear.net 39 points 4 months ago

> making good games

> genshin impact

[-] lil_tank@hexbear.net 16 points 4 months ago

I personally didn't get into it but from what I know it is much better slop than most western slop

[-] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 15 points 4 months ago

Okay to be fair I've never played it, I just assumed it was good since people sing it's praises around here.

[-] Orcocracy@hexbear.net 34 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

It’s a perfectly nice game smothered under a terrifyingly exploitative business model. If you have trouble with addiction or gambling it’s best to skip it entirely, but if you can safely avoid those elements and like open world fantasy action RPGs then it’s worth a go.

[-] FunkYankkkees@hexbear.net 26 points 4 months ago

It is a predatory gacha game but has above average gameplay

[-] Pili@hexbear.net 3 points 4 months ago

It's by far the most polished F2P game I've played. It's basically Breath of the Wild but with things to do in the open world instead of just emptiness.

[-] Aquilae@hexbear.net 14 points 4 months ago

Wow tech otakus really do save the world huh

[-] Pili@hexbear.net 12 points 4 months ago

Glad to see that my battle pass money is put to good use.

[-] Chronographs@lemmy.zip 11 points 4 months ago
[-] infuziSporg@hexbear.net 11 points 4 months ago

Only a radwife will help me build communism.

[-] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 8 points 4 months ago

Is it for the generating power for the genshin AI servers?

[-] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 4 months ago

its good to know my thirsty pulls go to a good cause at least

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