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[-] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 82 points 5 days ago

I assume that number doesn't cover people living in cars, hotels, and couch-surfing?

[-] RION@hexbear.net 72 points 5 days ago

According to HUD It's only measuring those in "shelters, temporary housing, and unsheltered settings"

[-] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 63 points 5 days ago

And even those metrics are most likely underestimated

[-] Sulvor@hexbear.net 38 points 5 days ago

Yeah this number is probably vastly undercounting, which is to be expected for this sort of thing.

[-] copandballtorture@hexbear.net 46 points 5 days ago

does not include those staying with friends or family because they do not have a place of their own

[-] bbnh69420@hexbear.net 42 points 5 days ago

And anyone not literally counted by the census takers I assume.

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 30 points 5 days ago

pretty sure it doesn't

[-] Lemister@hexbear.net 10 points 5 days ago

De facto homelessness amongst the precariat is probably much higher

[-] keepcarrot@hexbear.net 10 points 5 days ago

Locally, sleeping rough means you don't have a car, not couch surfing etc. When I say homeless, people assume I have a car for some reason

[-] BodyBySisyphus@hexbear.net 66 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

It's headlines like this one that make me want to start throwing stuff whenever someone makes the argument that the left is undermining the democrats by refusing to be satisfied with whatever crumbs they're throwing us this week. Everyone knows the Republicans suck, so criticizing the one party that still pretends to be accountable to its ostensible constituents for not doing enough to help those constituents should be a reasonable thing to do. The only rub here is that the Democratic leadership does not want to actually help, does not want to be held accountable, and doesn't want to be criticized, and so they've managed to convince their followers that reflecting on what's actually happening to society's most vulnerable is treasonous empowerment of the Republicans, who are the enemy but also reasonable people whom we still need to work with.

Nothing here is new, I'm just updating everyone on my slow slide into incoherence as I continue to gaze into the abyss.

[-] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 23 points 5 days ago

No no, this is a helpful compression

[-] Lemister@hexbear.net 12 points 5 days ago

Exactly they teach the democrats that essentially they get a free pass on disregarding everything until its election season and surely this time they will enact those ever diminishing and less radical policies.

[-] normal_user@hexbear.net 64 points 5 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Quoting the article:

“No American should face homelessness, and the Biden-Harris Administration is committed to ensuring every family has access to the affordable, safe, and quality housing they deserve,” HUD Agency Head Adrianne Todman said in a statement, adding that the focus should remain on “evidence-based efforts to prevent and end homelessness.”

Have they forgotten that the Biden-Harris Administration was (and still is), the one in charge ?
How does such an increase in homelessness show the commitment they said they have on fixing this issue ? It obviusly shows the opposite, that they don't care about it.

Is this really where journalism is at !?

[-] 666PeaceKeepaGirl@hexbear.net 64 points 5 days ago

Now if we can just keep this rate up there will be 770000*1.181^76 = 238 billion homeless Americans by end of century. Matt Yglesias will be pleased

[-] carpoftruth@hexbear.net 53 points 5 days ago

Thank you for doing data driven analysis data-outdoor-cat

[-] miz@hexbear.net 17 points 5 days ago

Matt Yglesias should be crushed by a hydraulic press

[-] came_apart_at_Kmart@hexbear.net 54 points 5 days ago

I can't believe Trump would do this. His 8 years in the White House has been a disaster, and it's only going to get worse over the next 4 years.

[-] miz@hexbear.net 1 points 4 days ago

nobody remembers President Arthur

[-] REgon@hexbear.net 53 points 5 days ago

But I was told to look at the graphs and see how good everything is. I wonder if the graphdorks will look at this one, or if they have some bs reason to dismiss this one like they do with all the other ones they don't like.

[-] 7bicycles@hexbear.net 34 points 5 days ago

the graphdorks look at this one and conclude since economy go up that these are 770,000 cases of parallel yet unrelated individual failures

[-] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 29 points 5 days ago

the graphdorks

My go-to lib graphdork is an obnoxious turbolib named Will Stancil. I assume he must argue with leftists almost every single day on Twitter and/or Bluesky. He can't help himself.

I changed the order so it's Reddit-like and his comment is effectively a reply.

Is homelessness not part of “the economy” in this formulation? Like, a large increase in homelessness is a part of the economic picture. To act like “the economy” can be walled off from homelessness is pretty crazy in my opinion.

It absolutely is part of the economy. And a large increase in homelessness is bad. But this is a fraction of a percent of the population - even a fraction of a percent of the LOW-INCOME population. So it doesn’t tell you much about the larger economy standing alone. We have broader measures for that

https://subium.com/profile/whstancil.bsky.social/post/3lecs4faat22t

God, what a ghoul he is. "Homelessness is bad but..." I'd poke at him but I can't. The day Steve Albini died - Stancil said something like he was "grief-stricken". It seemed like a lie to me so I replied with something like "Do you mean that? Or did you say it for street cred?" And he blocked me within a few minutes.

[-] REgon@hexbear.net 18 points 5 days ago

The day he lost that election was a great day

[-] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 16 points 5 days ago

:)

I love his bio...

Minnesota guy

I wonder if it means his hopes to be in elected office are crushed. I fucking hope so.

[-] hollowmines@hexbear.net 45 points 5 days ago

Wow I knew things were getting worse but that's a staggering figure.

[-] elpaso@hexbear.net 16 points 5 days ago

People have lost their minds justifying this system

[-] MaxOS@hexbear.net 40 points 5 days ago

libs saving these statistics for January 20th when the economy is bad again.

[-] BigLenin@hexbear.net 41 points 5 days ago

Clearly this has nothing to do with housing affordability.

[-] john_browns_beard@hexbear.net 43 points 5 days ago
[-] Sulvor@hexbear.net 23 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Holy shit that’s a wild number. Do they mean like own own??? Like not on a mortgage.

mao-aggro-shining

[-] SevenSkalls@hexbear.net 14 points 5 days ago

At first I thought you meant North Korea. Wonder how it's doing over there.

[-] Hohsia@hexbear.net 8 points 5 days ago

Ignoring the fact that most burger brains would see this as propaganda, not having a McMansion is a fate worse than death.

This, I believe, is why the housing crisis in America will never be solved- an epidemic of greed that affects everyone from parasitic billionaires to median wage earners with a desire to reach the next level in the rat race

[-] Thordros@hexbear.net 30 points 5 days ago

Since 2020, my local food bank has gone from free food, to rate limiting families to a set quantity of food per month, to now means-testing applicants to receive food after the end of this month.

But did you know?!?! The 0.01% have tripled their net worth since then! The economy is THRIVING! GDP!!!!!!

[-] oscardejarjayes@hexbear.net 35 points 5 days ago

Even in terms of per-capita that's really bad

[-] heatenconsumerist@hexbear.net 24 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Meanwhile giving Ukraine and Israel hundreds of billions of dollars

FUCK amerikkka

It's also WAY HIGHER than 770k. USA cooks tf outta that book

[-] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 4 days ago

Even undershooting it, its an absurd number. My town population is like 300k so to think there are more than double that amount of people living like that in the US and being treated as invisible is crazy, its insane that it just keeps growing.

[-] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 24 points 5 days ago

what-the-hell Richest country in the world btw

[-] Homer_Simpson@hexbear.net 28 points 5 days ago

That comes out to 245 people per county on average. and that 770k figure is from Jan of 2024

[-] hexaflexagonbear@hexbear.net 30 points 5 days ago
[-] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 29 points 5 days ago

We did it, reddit.

[-] chemicalprophet@lemm.ee 21 points 5 days ago

Shithole country

[-] dkr567@hexbear.net 26 points 5 days ago
[-] SupFBI@hexbear.net 26 points 5 days ago
[-] Sodium_nitride@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 5 days ago

adding that the focus should remain on “evidence-based efforts to prevent and end homelessness.”

You don't need "evidence-based" approaches for obvious shit like building dense walkable neighbours and increasing lower class incomes.

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 10 points 4 days ago

Funny how this is always presented as some novel problem as if this particular issue hasn't been demonstrably solved in many countries around the world. We know what evidence-based approach is. You dedicate resources to build affordable housing at state level. That's the fucking solution.

[-] kristina@hexbear.net 11 points 5 days ago

i believe it our trans housing shit is swamped

[-] ramosfan@hexbear.net 7 points 5 days ago
[-] Chef_Boyardee@lemm.ee 3 points 5 days ago

You know what people don't understand? If you don't use pictures in your comments, you can't be taken seriously.

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