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[-] DavidDoesLemmy@aussie.zone 68 points 3 weeks ago

Too many people smoke in Europe and it's too widely accepted.

[-] victorz@lemmy.world 13 points 3 weeks ago

Coming from northern Europe, we are usually surprised to see so many smokers when we vacation in the more southern parts of Europe. It used to be common here too, growing up in the 90s. But it just stopped. Very rarely do I see anyone with a cigarette, even outdoors. Cigarette butts are a rare find on the ground.

I'm happy about it. I hate smoking. But the snuff pandemic has to stop too. Many of my friends use it, and have for decades. I don't understand why people don't just choose not to put toxins in their body. So stupid. And they even pay to do it, too. A significant amount of money. So mf dumb.

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[-] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 7 points 3 weeks ago

Depends on the country.

In Belgium, smoking is almost banned everywhere. But when I went to Greece, it was weird seeing so many smokers at restaurants.

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[-] rekabis@programming.dev 43 points 3 weeks ago

Europe as a whole is swinging too far too the right. Y’all all are descending back into Fascism. The recent popularity of the AfD in Germany being a prime example. My own parents - who immigrated from Germany - are deeply disappointed in the direction the country is taking.

I think everyone everywhere knows the world over is sliding to the right.

[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago

Pot, Kettle, Black. The US Republican party is about as, if not more fascist than the German AfD or Austrias FPÖ.

In comparison, the US Democrats are about where European conservatives can be located on the political spectrum.

This does not imply that the current political direction is not problematic.

[-] cows_are_underrated@feddit.org 9 points 3 weeks ago

WE all know this. Sadly the average person doesnt care.

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[-] daggermoon@lemmy.world 36 points 3 weeks ago

I thought America was racist until I saw a member of UK Parliament tweeting about a boat of migrants sinking with "Good riddance".

[-] naonintendois@programming.dev 8 points 3 weeks ago

There is still a lot of racism in America. I would not be surprised if I saw that from an American politician.

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[-] rothaine@lemm.ee 27 points 3 weeks ago

GDPR is great, but we all hate cookie banners

[-] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 18 points 3 weeks ago

The cookie banner law isn't the problem, websites don't have to have one.

They only need to ask permission to invade your privacy.

Too bad nearly every website wants to.

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[-] TheObviousSolution@lemm.ee 11 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Honestly, they've basically shitted on the intent of the GDPR last year when they started allowing sites to block users who did not choose to allow personalized ads as long as they had a "paid" alternative very few people are actually going to use. It was a perversion of what Google did, which was entirely different since they still allowed people to disable personalized ads and accept generic ads instead.

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[-] kreskin@lemmy.world 26 points 3 weeks ago

French food is wildly overrated, as is Paris.

[-] ChairmanMeow@programming.dev 16 points 3 weeks ago

If there's anything Europeans know to be true, it's that Paris is a giant tourist trap. Not worth it imo.

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[-] mlg@lemmy.world 24 points 3 weeks ago

Not Eurpoe specifically but I shared a rather basic comment on YouTube joking about Great Britain causing famines in India but its okay because they brought trains and the result is a mile long thread of pissed off UK suckers telling me I'm wrong, that there was no fammine, the Wikipedia article and its 300 sources are fake, and that the British empire totally went around modernizing civilization for the benefit of humanity. (Was a post about Irish complaining about a very crappy Irish History book made by a British author)

So I guess for any of those people, no GB was just a colonist empire racing to exploit the hell out of resources faster than France, Spain, and Portugal. The technology they brought was used almost exclusively in their conquest operations (Trains used to transport goods and resources) and they actively supported and supplied opposition groups to destabilize and overthrow governments similar to what the USA does today.

I mean seriously, they held immense power over China via opium and are responsible for practically every shill state in the middle east because they provided weapons to overthrow the Ottaman empire.

The iconic pan arab flag is actually a British designed flag given to all the opposition groups they funded to break up Ottaman power.

They fell apart after exhausting their power in WWII and the USA came in to save them so now they gleefully cheer about how they carried in WWII with intelligence services as if Germany couldn't have easily invaded the entire nation overnight had Hitler not been an incompetent moron.

Thankfully, after exploiting half the world, they totally didn't spend the last of their power screwing over every former colony into some long term problem that they could exploit without the need for military power.

[-] Zementid@feddit.nl 14 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Sometimes if feel like only the Germans were forced to acknowledge and learn about their history. When I hear ignorant Belgian fucks talking about how their country never could do something as atrocious as Nazi Germany did I am mostly left speechless. Like... don't they actually know? (They were like 20-22yrs propably Backpacking riding a Bus.... in Dachau)

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[-] airportline@lemmy.ml 24 points 3 weeks ago

Europeans are just as susceptible to racism as Americans.

[-] 3dogsinatrenchcoat@slrpnk.net 8 points 3 weeks ago

I've seen white europeans be like "I've never encountered any racism in europe!" Well that is because you are white

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[-] IdleSheep@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 3 weeks ago

As a European myself, never mention the Romani people to anyone here unless you want to hear the most degenerate, racist diatribe you can conjure up in your mind. (half hyperbole half not)

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[-] frezik@midwest.social 21 points 3 weeks ago

France, Germany, and Austria all have a military-industrial complex problem. MIL money might not dominate their politics the same way as the US, but there is a problem there.

Even with their post-WW2 defensive militaries, Germany and Austria are perfectly ready to sell military hardware to anyone with the cash. H&K, Glock, and Steyr all hail from those two.

France sold off the Exocet anti-ship missile to just about anyone. As far as I can tell, it has only been fired in anger at the boats of other NATO members. Thanks, France!

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[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 20 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Europe is not as different from the US as it likes to pretend, especially politically.

Racism is not a unique or exceptionally American phenomenon, and the things I've heard from otherwise progressive Europeans can fucking curdle milk equal or in excess to what people in my ultra-rural ultra-conservative home region of the US can say.

[-] Classy@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 weeks ago

I've had good friends who were Europeans studying here, and they can definitely be very insensitive and racist. What makes the two flavors of racism different to me is American racism is typically very confrontational, tribalistic. White man calling a black man a slur, and there's something cavalier about it, maybe even humorous on the part of the racist.

Europeans have a much more "it is the way it is" attitude. I've heard friends talk very disparagingly about interracial couples, or blacks in general, and the attitude is less "hate for hate's sake" but instead "it is the wrong way to be and my way is correct". Fascinatingly, when you point out the bigotry, my friends have typically refused to accept their bias (at best), and will deny they're racist.

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[-] Birch@sh.itjust.works 13 points 3 weeks ago

I can't remember the last time I heard of some european police shooting someones spaniel or flashbanging a toddler tbh, not saying they're flawless, just on a different level.

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[-] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org 8 points 3 weeks ago

My encounters with the police have been civil and positive. However, I'm not Roma so...

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[-] S_H_K@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 3 weeks ago

Many of your economies strive cause they stolen loads of values from us.

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[-] TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee 13 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Europeans are really fucking racist. Asians and Jews are cool and yet yall are really weird about them. and don't get me started on how badly Islam is vilified...

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[-] ZoDoneRightNow@kbin.earth 13 points 3 weeks ago

As someone who isn’t a European, most of these comments are yanks being loudly wrong about something and the saying “see the europeans weren’t ready to hear it” when someone points out how stupid the thing they said was.

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[-] DankOfAmerica@reddthat.com 10 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Europeans like to pretend they're innocent, but they are the benefactors of most the damaging empires to have ever existed. They colonized nearly the entire world, extracting value from other cultures while destroying them. They pulled out once it was financially wise, keeping the wealth they extracted and leaving behind the destruction they created. They then blame everyone else for their issues while bragging about how awesome the EU is while overlooking that the EU is only possible due to the wealth they stole from everyone else. Europe likes to discuss that they had their social hardship discussing WWII, but the origin and impact of WWII there was internal to Europe. Had Europe been subject to colonization from elsewhere, it would be just as much a mess as other places. Look at the situation in former Soviet Pact countries that were practically colonized by Russia for maybe half a century. Now imagine if instead of half a century, it was hundreds of years and 5 times as brutal.

~~Fun fact: The term "colony" comes from Christopher Colombus' name, which is Spanish is Cristobal Colon. Even the term colonization derives from a European.~~ Apparently, that was incorrect.

tl;dr: Europe got to where it is by destroying the rest of the world while blaming the rest of the world for their issues. Their critique of USA is merely a distraction from their own responsibility.

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[-] pugsnroses77@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 weeks ago

yall need to get off the high horse and take a joke sometimes. you terrorized the entire world via colonization for hundreds of years through modern day, if people harmlessly stereotype the german or french, make fun of british people, or tease the dutch language, yall can handle it

for context, im american. we get bullied all the time, and while not all americans are fat and stupid, the combination of that many are and that we've terrorized the world plenty make me think a lil teasing is fair

[-] HowManyNimons@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago

Yes it's perfectly fair and most of us don't mind.

[-] Blaze@sopuli.xyz 8 points 3 weeks ago

I think the issue, especially on Reddit, was the over-representation of US Americans compared to the other countries.

It gets old quite fast to get called a "surrender monkey" or a Nazi on a regular basis in a space where most of the audience is on the other side and I'm not even French or German.

On Lemmy it's probably a bit more balanced.

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[-] morrowind@lemmy.ml 9 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Most Europeans still have a casual sense of arrogance and superiority over the rest of the world. It's not very heavy, but it's there, even among some of the best people I know

[-] Numenor@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago

I have a formal sense of arrogance, thank you.

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[-] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago

You guys should start bulking up your militaries. At best, the US will completely abandon you, and I really don't want to think about worst-case scenario as I live in the US.

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[-] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 3 weeks ago

EU institutions are just as regulatory captured as everywhere else. The EU bureaucracy is horribly inefficient with tons of unfirable "human drones" making 2x for the same role one does in the the private market, where they just do 1/10x of the work. The only reason EU is not quite as corrupt as USA is ironically because all the competing rich fuckers of each nation are competing with each other's lobbying

[-] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I don't really understand why paying government workers a living wage is a bad thing here?

I am not familiar with the statistics in Europe, but do government employees really make 2x as much as private sector? And if so, are they really doing 1/10th of the work? Those numbers seem absurd.

"Inefficient" bureaucracy, and a well-paid work force, does not equal corruption.

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[-] GrumpyDuckling@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 weeks ago

European car manufacturers largely suck ass, I'd rather buy a Hyundai or a damn Nissan than some French or German piece of crap.

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[-] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago

The American South equals the European East

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