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submitted 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/politics@lemmy.world

Summary

House Speaker Mike Johnson stated that federal aid for California's devastating Los Angeles wildfires, which have killed at least 24 and displaced nearly 200,000 people, should come with conditions, citing alleged failures by state and local leaders.

Johnson also hinted at tying aid to debt ceiling negotiations.

Other Republican leaders, including Senators John Barrasso and Ron Johnson, expressed similar views, blaming liberal policies for exacerbating the fires.

Critics denounce these positions as cruel, given the scale of destruction, with over 12,000 buildings lost and massive evacuation orders in effect.

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[-] not_that_guy05@lemmy.world 146 points 3 months ago

You know California could just not pay the federal government taxes for a year and we would be back to 100 real quick.

No reason to giving money to other red welfare states that this state earned.

[-] the_tab_key@lemmy.world 65 points 3 months ago

I want this to happen soooo bad. Signed, a New Yorker (State, not city)

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[-] takeda@lemm.ee 16 points 3 months ago

The thing is that it is us, who pay the federal taxes. We would have to stop paying them and then redirect it to state government. The problem would be how California could change that?

[-] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 13 points 3 months ago

The GOP also cut funding to the IRS. Who is going to do that collecting?

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[-] friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 103 points 3 months ago

Is this how you Make America Great Again? Is this America First?

[-] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 38 points 3 months ago

Yes. When you consider that means making the left suffer. This is exactly what MAGA wants.

[-] whostosay@lemmy.world 15 points 3 months ago

They will eat their own shit to spite us.

[-] Bronzebeard@lemm.ee 12 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Except there's more Republicans living in California than the total population of most red states.

[-] EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 3 months ago

Doesn't matter. They'd jump on a grenade if they could push a liberal down underneath them.

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[-] pyre@lemmy.world 24 points 3 months ago

Mexico is helping while "America first" government officials are deliberately withholding aid. Absolute demons.

[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 18 points 3 months ago

This is "Republican America First".

[-] Frozengyro@lemmy.world 17 points 3 months ago

This is their version of it.... Make white America great again

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[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago

More like Make The Confederacy Great Again.

[-] BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca 90 points 3 months ago

How much longer do they think California is going to keep paying into the federal government if the federal government keeps pulling this shit?

California is the single largest net contributor to federal spending.

[-] toiletobserver@lemmy.world 57 points 3 months ago

That's the neat part, they don't think.

[-] Eldritch@lemmy.world 14 points 3 months ago

It's worse than you think. Many of them don't think. But for many of them that's the dream. Without the blue States contributing to federal government you've just starved the Beast that much more and hurt that many more people. It's enough to push them over the edge and make them cum. Thinking about California doing that. It would be handing them exactly what they want.

It's much easier to destroy than it is to build. And they are gleeful little arsonists.

[-] dirthawker0@lemmy.world 17 points 3 months ago

They want to knock CA down because it's a wealthy, successful state with mostly Democrats, but they don't think far enough to realize if they succeed in damaging CA's economy then CA can't contribute as much to their red welfare state.

[-] Mirshe@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

Nah, a good chunk of them know it would hurt them. They hope it would hurt the people they hate worse.

Having quite a few family members like this, trust me when I say there's plenty of them who THINK they would happily deal with an economic crash if it meant that black/brown/gay/leftist people starved to death.

[-] ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 87 points 3 months ago

Johnson also hinted at tying aid to debt ceiling negotiations.

Aka "Something terrible happened to you and you need help, so this is my chance to force you to do what I want."

This is just dripping with psychopathy. This is why I could never become a politician or a billionnaire CEO: I just couldn't hold my breakfast in in the morning looking in the mirror.

[-] tiefling@lemmy.blahaj.zone 43 points 3 months ago

Psychopathy is a requirement to be part of the American Nazi Party

[-] ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 3 months ago

I think you'll find a whole lot of them in all parties. And in boardrooms.

[-] ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world 66 points 3 months ago

The guy who represents one of the welfare states that takes a lot more money from the union than they give back... is doing this to one of the big blue states that gives to the union a lot more than they get back?

Fucking pathetic, greedy, immoral little shit. I hope his home gets wiped out in the next natural disaster that hits good state.

[-] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 48 points 3 months ago

I guess California and other blue states should also tie federal taxes to things of their own. Maybe even leave the union altogether, alongside with other states.

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[-] WeUnite@lemm.ee 41 points 3 months ago

Democrats: Please remember this moment and when it comes time to the elections constantly repeat this on loop as much as possible. We must never forget this.

[-] Asafum@feddit.nl 28 points 3 months ago

Democrats: we already know they're pieces of shit

Republicans: Fox news tells me California deserves it.

We live in the post truth world, what you believe to be true is predetermined and nothing means anything that comes from outside your chosen propaganda outlet. :(

[-] ElcaineVolta@kbin.melroy.org 15 points 3 months ago

I honestly really admire your optimism.

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[-] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 39 points 3 months ago

If you are in california and have nothing to lose remember that you know where mike johnson goes to work everyday.

[-] Wogi@lemmy.world 20 points 3 months ago

You know if I lived in California right now I'd be wondering real hard why even be a part of the union? California contributes more than it receives, has vastly different politics than the rest of the country, has a powerhouse economy.

[-] TheLowestStone@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

The big problems would be all the US military bases and the power grid but, yeah I'm in.

[-] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 3 months ago

As a Californian I can tell you that a lot of us from all sides of the spectrum out here have revived succession talks

Usually those guys outside the capitol are considered loons, but lately the talk has basically been along these lines. That and "world's 5th biggest economy on our own"

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[-] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

We also know where he lives. All three addresses.

[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 28 points 3 months ago

The entire qon thing of "California bad" is just so very fucking stupid. It's clear they are very jealous of California, which is arguably our most important state.

[-] BertramDitore@lemm.ee 28 points 3 months ago

California might as well be in the G7. So go right ahead Johnson, be petty and watch what happens when we stop paying federal taxes. You better believe we’ll be able to fund this kind of shit ourselves if we don’t have to share…

[-] kipo@lemm.ee 24 points 3 months ago

California should be like: "We will not negotiate with terrorists."

[-] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 24 points 3 months ago

Doing something so cartoonishly evil to so many people who so recently lost everything?

I don't know, sounds like a safety issue for him. Hopefully his preservation instincts kick in.

He's not holding aid hostage, he's holding people's lives hostage.

[-] zbyte64@awful.systems 23 points 3 months ago

Climate change comes for all

[-] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 29 points 3 months ago
[-] DrFistington@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago

Always remember the 4th of December. The day Saint Luigi and his followers will come to collect the dues owed to society

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[-] ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 3 months ago

Most insightful comment of the day.

[-] PedroMaldonado@lemmy.world 17 points 3 months ago

What a fucking piece of shit you are, Johnson.

[-] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 14 points 3 months ago

None of these people are serving the United States. They need to be removed.

[-] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 14 points 3 months ago

These are the people they always want to apply the 'higher ground' and 'congressional decorum' to. Fuck em.

[-] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 13 points 3 months ago

So the next time Louisiana gets fucked like they did during Katrina we all just tell them to suck it?

[-] socsa@piefed.social 12 points 3 months ago

That's pretty much what GWB did though

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[-] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

The fucked up thing is that the blatant double standard ensures that Republicans will blame the left no matter what. You cannot teach them through cause and effect, because their propaganda is too fucking powerful and their brains are too rotted.

If the Democrats did something even slightly similar to this, like 10% the severity, they would be demonized and it would be taken by conservatives as an act of unprovoked aggression. It does not matter what the context is, or if it was a direct response to Republicans doing the same fucking thing. It just does not matter.

[-] Zerlyna@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago

I thought it was Canada’s fault for not turning on their faucet?

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