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On Russian TV this myterious unknowable and unclear gesture was censored. It is a complete mystery why since it was an just an awkward moment (hexbear.net)

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[-] Zuzak@hexbear.net 99 points 5 months ago

It's also censored on RedNote, btw, here's a completely unrelated image.

[-] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 39 points 5 months ago

So the x is for them not voting right?

why did Germany not vote yay...

[-] barrbaric@hexbear.net 49 points 5 months ago

X is Abstain yeah. All the countries that abstained did so to show the US that they're good little vassals.

The official reason is that apparently saying "Nazism is bad" will lend validity to Russia's claim to be denazifying Ukraine. How that looks worse than Ukraine voting to allow Nazism is unclear.

[-] ThermonuclearEgg@hexbear.net 26 points 5 months ago

Truly one of the world's great mysteries /s

[-] Azarova@hexbear.net 25 points 5 months ago

X is abstain, blank is no vote

[-] refurbishedrefurbisher@lemmy.sdf.org 31 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Gotta love how basically all western countries abstained.

[-] Zuzak@hexbear.net 45 points 5 months ago

international-community-1 international-community-2

[-] IceWallowCum@hexbear.net 11 points 5 months ago

The color scheme looks so ominous

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[-] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 84 points 5 months ago

Russia has done a lot of things wrong over recent years but one thing they are still consistently winning at is absolutely crushing Nazis wherever they can

[-] GnastyGnuts@hexbear.net 58 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

A while back (like years now) there was a thread on here talking about Russia under Yeltsin, and how basically nazi gangs were running rampant brutalizing people after the fall of the USSR. Once Putin came in, for all his other faults, he had those sorts eradicated and any remnants suppressed.

[-] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 54 points 5 months ago

I bet it's been a massive boost to their morale in Ukraine to have the country infested with nazis. People won't want to fight for bourgeois interests in horrifying wars. People will, however, sign up to kill nazis for free. That's especially true in Eastern Europe where the nazis did most of their dirt outside of Germany. Veterans of the Great Patriotic War are still alive and they have family who won't hesitate to follow in their footsteps.

[-] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 16 points 5 months ago

I bet it's been a massive boost to their morale in Ukraine to have the country infested with nazis.

I've seen reactions of both Russian troops and civilians over this and the reactions I've seen are a mix of betrayal that people who are supposed to be their brothers despise them and genuine horror at the level of Nazism in Ukraine. I don't think the Russians were unsure of how bad the Nazism was, I think instead they see Ukraine as a genuine threat even to the average civilian (in Kursk Ukrainian troops and foreign mercs were literally gunning down civilians) and it's still as unfathomable an evil as it was in WW2. I genuinely believe by the time the war started the level of Nazism in Ukraine was no mystery to the average Russian.

[+] awth13@hexbear.net 9 points 5 months ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

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[-] Saeculum@hexbear.net 13 points 5 months ago

People go for critical support because it opposes the US's interests and somehow forget that the USSR has been dead for over thirty years and the Russian Federation is a bourgeoisie oligarchy wearing its corpse as a mask.

[-] borschtisgarbo@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 5 months ago

The reason people critically support Russia is for that exact reason

[-] Saeculum@hexbear.net 5 points 5 months ago

I'm not saying that they shouldn't have critical support, just that people seem to assume they are better than they really are once that support has been given.

[-] CommCat@hexbear.net 6 points 5 months ago

any leftist who opposes a mutlipolar world and the weakening of US-NATO, most likely lives in the Imperial core or one of its vassal states. They have no problem with the US being the lone superpower with the ability to crush or starve any country that tries to implement a more equitable system that goes against the US "rules based order". With the rise of China and Russia and the weakening of US-NATO, countries like Cuba, Venezuela, DPRK etc, will have breathing space to chart their own path, instead of being constantly under the jackboot of US Imperialism. Just look at the recent Cuban energy crisis, which countries sent aid? Russia, China and Mexico. Is Russia sending this aid due to past socialist relations? Nah, but instead of constant US led colour revolution attempts, that some Western "leftists" have no problem with and even support, stability in these countries is geopolitically better for Russia-China.

[-] Saeculum@hexbear.net 4 points 5 months ago

With the rise of China and Russia and the weakening of US-NATO, countries like Cuba, Venezuela, DPRK etc, will have breathing space to chart their own path, instead of being constantly under the jackboot of US Imperialism.

I don't disagree, but the path Russia seems to be charting is one of bourgeoisie oligarchy. Not something to admire.

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[-] 666@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 5 months ago

Critical support means supporting a nation fighting back against the other nation that has a global hegemony economically and in military as well against their proxies. We acknowledge that the Russian Federation is an oligarchy; but unlike America it doesn't have military bases surrounding and in every country around nations they are hostile toward nor dictates the actions and policy of the west which is the primary aggressor and agents of imperialism defined by Lenin.

Despite the death of the Soviet Union, it still has done more for the international working class than any settler project.

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[-] vegeta1@hexbear.net 6 points 5 months ago

Hell doesn't the Wagner group name have highly questionable origins from Utkin?

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[-] 666@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 5 months ago

The difference is that the Nazis in Ukraine are supported by a nation with a global economic and military hegemony and are being exported to support other imperialist projects.

Like nations choosing to support and side with Russia and China against their colonial aggressors. Or nations seeking their own independence.

Do you think Imperialism is when country attack other country?

[-] TheGenderWitch@hexbear.net 4 points 5 months ago

russian fascism is definitely an issue where russia could improve, but not nearly the same as ukraine just being massively filled with armed nazi battallions

[-] xiaohongshu@hexbear.net 66 points 5 months ago

On Ukrainian TV, they literally went “Musk made the Sig Heil Salute, means he’s our guy!”

[-] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 27 points 5 months ago

Lmao

[-] bbnh69420@hexbear.net 23 points 5 months ago

I don’t fuck with that account, anybody speak ukranian?

[-] xiaohongshu@hexbear.net 11 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

They already subtitled it for you lol

Маск только что зиганул, ну, наш человек, получается

lol

[-] bbnh69420@hexbear.net 25 points 5 months ago

And I’m saying I didn’t trust the subtitler

[-] gay_king_prince_charles@hexbear.net 7 points 5 months ago

This also seems like something where context matters and it might be a bit

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[-] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 48 points 5 months ago

Russia is bad guys, which means they were just censoring him because they hate autism! We should get a group of celebrities like Mark Hamill and Stephen King together to do this same gesture to show Russia that we aren't afraid of them!