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[-] CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de 97 points 2 weeks ago
[-] superkret@feddit.org 86 points 2 weeks ago

So it's a sex toy, got it.

[-] niktemadur@lemmy.world 22 points 2 weeks ago

A fertility ceremonial, got it!

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[-] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 22 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I always loved David Macauley take on this. He wrote a book as if people 2000 years ago found a motel and he presumed the “sanitized for your protection” banding and toilet seats would have been seen as ceremonial wear.

https://www.byanyothernerd.com/2020/04/stranger-days-39-mysteries-of-motel.html?m=1

[-] TheOctonaut@mander.xyz 13 points 2 weeks ago

I can't remember if it's an official Asimov book or not, but one of the Foundation books set far beyond even the main series has an archaeological mission finding thousands of ceremonial hard white ceramic bowl-funnels and speculating on their significance to these incomprehensibly ancient peoples.

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[-] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 80 points 2 weeks ago

Archeologists after looking at literally anything: Looks like a calendar. Or maybe a religious object. Or maybe a calendar of religions significance.

[-] Tyfud@lemmy.world 21 points 2 weeks ago

People back then loved their religious calendars. That's all they ever talked about. Whole books could be written about them.

But instead of books to write about them, they documented their love of religious calendar artifacts, with more calendar artifacts.

[-] affiliate@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago

or something used in “fertility rituals”

[-] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago

Translation: it's clearly a dildo, but if i put that into the study they won't publish it.

[-] samus12345@lemm.ee 57 points 2 weeks ago
[-] lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 2 weeks ago

I always wondered how they made those

[-] MeThisGuy@feddit.nl 9 points 2 weeks ago

with lead probably

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[-] ReplicantBatty@lemmy.one 56 points 2 weeks ago

A NEW HAND TOUCHES THE BEACON

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[-] shadowedcross@sh.itjust.works 39 points 2 weeks ago

They've actually all been planted by time travelers just to fuck with people.

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[-] BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz 37 points 2 weeks ago
[-] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 41 points 2 weeks ago

People say this every time, and it’s still not true, because the Romans didn’t knit. Knitting is a technology and it hadn’t made it to Rome at the time these were made.

Also, some were solid and unsuitable for knitting. And they were found with giant piles of money, which is a weird place to keep your domestic tools.

[-] BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz 19 points 2 weeks ago
[-] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 28 points 2 weeks ago

Oh well if you put it that way I guess it’s knitting

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[-] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 19 points 2 weeks ago

knitting what? the ones that have been recovered were way too big to make sense for that purpose

[-] rockerface@lemm.ee 12 points 2 weeks ago

Maybe oversized sweaters were a thing back then

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[-] samus12345@lemm.ee 10 points 2 weeks ago

And they don't show signs of wear and tear that using them for such a purpose would create, either.

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[-] andros_rex@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago

Knitting is a medieval development that originated around Egypt in probably 1000-1100 CE (AD). There is no evidence of two needle knitting before then.

Romans used sprang, weaving and needlebinding techniques. They did not knit. Some needlebound artifacts can resemble knitting - particularly those in the Coptic stitch. They are still produced using the thumb and needle method of needlebinding and are structurally different.

The type of knitting that YouTube grandma did on the dodecahedron - spool knitting/French knitting - is an even later development - early modern period - 1400-1500s.

As a spool knitter, the dodecahedron makes very little sense. The spacing of the pegs - not the spacing of the holes - is what determines the size of the created tube. Every face of the dodecahedron would create the same size tube - which means you’ve just got extra random pointless shit digging into your hands. Google and compare to a modern spool knitter.

The idea of making a doohickey for fingered gloves, which you would then need to sew on anyway (every knitters least favorite thing to do) - it’s silly.

Here are some 4th/5th century socks - produced via needlebinding.

Here is the earliest known example of true knitting. 1000 at earliest.

You mentioned that not all socks would survive - that is true, but often textile patterns can be recovered through indentions in other material.

[-] eyes@lemmy.world 36 points 2 weeks ago

Always love seeing these come up and everyone confidently stating that it's been solved. Everything from a knitting tool (highly unlikely as the Romans didn't knit) to a dice. The truth is we just don't know and likely never will unless a new source .

Personally I'm convinced by the theory that they're probably a metalworkers portfolio piece used to demonstrate the creators skill, either to potential customers or as a test to join a guild.

[-] Samsy@lemmy.ml 29 points 2 weeks ago

Haha, they don't know how to use the three dodecahedron's.

[-] Kolanaki@pawb.social 24 points 2 weeks ago

I just assume it's a random doodad. Like a desk decoration or something. Why wouldn't ancient people have had dumb bullshit that served no purpose other than it's aesthetic value just like we do now?

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[-] peto@lemm.ee 24 points 2 weeks ago

Are we entirely sure it's not just an ornament? I've got all kinds of things that aren't even ritual objects.

[-] dharmacurious@slrpnk.net 23 points 2 weeks ago

No, no you don't. Everything that isn't fully functional and necessary for life is a ritual object! And also some of the the other things to! It's all ritual! It's ritual all the way down, baby!

[-] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago

So you’re saying I’m a ritual object? Huh, go figure.

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[-] BalderSion@real.lemmy.fan 20 points 2 weeks ago

That is not an uncommon guess, but the argument against it is that these took some sophistication to make. This isn't some disposable gewgaw. These were made with relatively tight tolerances and exhibited the best metalworking fabrication of the age. One theory I've seen seriously floated was that they were made as a demonstration of metal working competency, the equivalent of a benchy in 3D printing.

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[-] garbagebagel@lemmy.world 21 points 2 weeks ago
[-] tetris11@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 weeks ago
[-] MeatPilot@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago

Obviously it's a key that needs to be inserted into an ancient titan robot to power it back up.

[-] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago

What an utterly ridiculous notion. Obviously it's a magical battery that, once charged, can be inserted into an ancient titan robot to power it back up.

[-] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 16 points 2 weeks ago

All we know for certain is that at some point that thing was on some bored Romans knob.

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[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 14 points 2 weeks ago

Spaghetti portion measurer.

[-] Couldbealeotard@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago

It's probably some kids workshop assignment that he brought home to his parents.

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[-] Slovene@feddit.nl 14 points 2 weeks ago

What if it's a die for an ancient version of D&D? Labyrinths & Minotaurs. Or that thing you put treats in and then your dog rolls it around and gets a biccy every so often.

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[-] rustyfish@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago

This is SCP-184.

But you probably don’t have access to that file.

[-] Stamets@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago

This isn't even a joke, I have an O5 ID card in my wallet. Fun little thing to pull out in moments like this lol

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[-] KittyCat@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago

https://youtu.be/lADTLozKm0I?si=pKQ8Dwt7wriapdni

Seems pretty convincing and matches gold bracelets made in the era.

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[-] Jake_Farm@sopuli.xyz 12 points 2 weeks ago

I thought it was a dowel sizing tool for standardized construction.

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[-] djsoren19@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 2 weeks ago

Looks like a bigass thundercube to me. Don't wanna fiddle with them too much, they might get krangled.

[-] JeSuisUnHombre@lemm.ee 9 points 2 weeks ago

Actual guess after hearing that they're found with money. Used it to check size of coins for valuation? Sort of like how some coin counters with?

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