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Poland moves to extradite Ukrainian SS veteran who was applauded in Canada (www.politico.eu)
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[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 119 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That is an absolutely hilarious political move in this situation. It fucks things right up.

Think of the calculus here. You applauded this nazi but you're pretending now that your applause was accidental. What do you do? Refuse to extradite the nazi? That's gonna make it look like you're full of shit about your applauding being a mistake.

Either they agree to the extradition to cover their asses or they look like nazis. Either way this story stays news relevant for a good while now and they were hoping it would die down quickly.

[-] ThomasMuentzner@hexbear.net 83 points 1 year ago

Fuck yeah Poland , let the smug proud fuck stand trial for things that do not lawfully nor morally expire!

barbara-pit

[-] President_Obama@hexbear.net 40 points 1 year ago

Why would they refuse to extradite?

[-] ProxyTheAwesome@hexbear.net 88 points 1 year ago

Because Canada fucking loves Nazis. Same reasons they let tens of thousands in after WW2, same reason their deputy PM is the unapologetic child of a Ukrainian Nazi, same reason they are part of the NATO Nazi alliance, same reason they clapped for a nazi in their parliament and thanked him for his service. THEY ARE NAZIS.

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[-] CommCat@hexbear.net 62 points 1 year ago

Canada seems to be full of Ukrainian Nazis, their defense minister Chrystia Freeland's grand father was the chief ediotor of a Ukrainian newspaper for the Nazis. There might be political support for the Nazi against extradition.

[-] Fishroot@hexbear.net 51 points 1 year ago

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/freeland-warns-canadians-to-beware-of-russian-disinformation/article34227707/

Foreign Affairs Minister Chrystia Freeland, who is being targeted by allegations in pro-Moscow websites that her maternal Ukrainian grandfather was a Nazi collaborator, warned Monday that Canada should expect to be the focus of Russian disinformation campaigns similar to what is happening in Europe and the United States.

TIL reality is putinist propaganda

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 36 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

First is guilt for putting him in this position. Second is the fact they don't really think these crimes matter anymore, they really think it's all over and that we've moved on from them.

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[-] CA0311@hexbear.net 27 points 1 year ago

the liberals would feel guilty for convincing this guy to show his face and then getting him in trouble. they don't really feel like he should be punished.

[-] Riffraffintheroom@hexbear.net 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Capitulating to a foreign power’s demands during a time where they already look weak due to the India thing.

[-] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 19 points 1 year ago

I'm guessing they use the "old and in poor health" excuse

[-] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 20 points 1 year ago

Trudeau implied that this was the work of russian propaganda 😂 these guys are comically incompetent.

[-] jackmarxist@hexbear.net 66 points 1 year ago

Im going to guess that western media will just mysteriously forget about this story in a week or two and never talk about it again.

[-] blobjim@hexbear.net 65 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

heartbreaking heartbreaking heartbreaking heartbreaking heartbreaking heartbreaking heartbreaking heartbreaking heartbreaking heartbreaking heartbreaking heartbreaking (they're on the march)

[-] ProxyTheAwesome@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This meme even looks like a Pole lmao

edit: I have been informed he actually looks like a normal Polish guy

[-] CatoPosting@hexbear.net 22 points 1 year ago

Polack

This is a slur, isn't it?

[-] Dolores@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago

im quite certain it's a famous splatter painter actually theory-gary

[-] ProxyTheAwesome@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

an old timey 1800s one for a group that's considered white now. It's a slur in the way guido, wop or dago are. This house was built on ironic racism against Irish, Italians and Poles!

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 36 points 1 year ago

I think it's worth being careful with this. Anti Polish racism is alive and well here in the UK.

[-] SpiderFarmer@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago

Yeah, in America it's more of a joke. But learning more about Britain as I grew up, it's crazy how the Polish hate is still just as strong as it was when my grandma lived there.

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[-] oregoncom@hexbear.net 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

A slur's a slur. I've definitely seen Polish people get discriminated before. The article's literally about a living Nazi who was ethnically cleansing them. "Ironic" Racism is some far right BS. I'm not white btw. White people "ironically" being racist towards eachother is the cringiest shit to witness.

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[-] usernamesaredifficul@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago

This ain't it chief anti-Polish racism is alive and well. Much like anti-Irish racism I was talking to a Scot recently who suggested to me that we put them in concentration camps

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[-] Fishroot@hexbear.net 58 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Polish politicians have more political instinct than the Liberal party.

It took at least 5 days since the event, getting bullied by 2 parties on the parliament (they also clapped btw) and Maxime Bernier to shit on you to fire the ''person responsible'' (still a MP btw)

[-] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 54 points 1 year ago

Price is Right Losing Horn

[-] StalinForTime@hexbear.net 50 points 1 year ago

As a communist, it's a remarkable feeling shouting to the wind about the self-evident Nazification of Ukraine and the support by the West for its fascist client states, while being called a Russian bot in the flesh, only to then have every point you've made been proven utterly correct and for no-one to recognise it even when they have to clean up after themselves after having shit the bed.

Oh wait it's called Cassandra complex.

[-] CA0311@hexbear.net 39 points 1 year ago

im about to lose my fucking mind lol. i am actually thinking it's time to put down the internet for good, even hexbear, because seeing all this nazi apologia even for dunking on is too much.

it makes sense that the unique significance of nazi germany would get muddled a bit over the generations, but holy shit, im in my mid thirties and "the soviets were worse than the nazis and joining the ss is sometimes a necessary thing "is a mainstream media opinion. we have and will not learn anything. im gonna puke if i read another one of these fucking articles or tweets.

[-] TheOtherwise@hexbear.net 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I know what you mean, this event feels different for me. I mean the impact it has on me personally. I just....like...these people knew, man. They knew. 100%. They knew what they were clapping for. And they thought it was OK just because the Nazi had been fighting the dirty Russians. And then they're response to it all....

It's fucking disgusting.

[-] CA0311@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago

the thing that really surprised me about all this is that it's so fucked that i actually felt disappointed by the canadian government. like i've known forever that my country is imperialist to the core. i've learned not to expect a single good thing from canada. yet somehow this apparently broke some kind of line I didn't know existed. i won't go as far as to say I was surprised, but i was disappointed, i didn't know it was possible for me to be disappointed by these ghouls anymore.

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[-] corgiwithalaptop@hexbear.net 24 points 1 year ago

"Tankie" just means "anyone who is correct*"

*anarchist comrades included here

[-] Thordros@hexbear.net 48 points 1 year ago

Too bad it'll never happen. He's going to die comfortably at home, surrounded by his loved ones, and never leave Canada. We've done this song and dance before, and last time the Liberals bent over backwards to make sure the Nazis stayed in Canada.

kkkanada

[-] KarlBarqs@hexbear.net 41 points 1 year ago

He's going to die comfortably at home, surrounded by his loved ones

Y'know, I was thinking about this today.

This guy's got kids and grandkids and probably great grandkids. Did they know? His kids had to know, right? Did they just ignore that their father was a member of one of the most evil organizations to exist? Did all his grandkids just discover that oops, grandpa was a fucking Waffen-SS trooper from the news media?

There's no answer that isn't grim as fuck, and I can only hope he has no loved ones, that everyone who knew he was a Nazi immediately excised him from their lives.

[-] CA0311@hexbear.net 25 points 1 year ago

a relevant canadian example is our deputy prime minister chrystia freeland who is that granddaughter of that nazi and spent a bunch of her adult life furthering his work in diminishing nazi atrocities and inventing soviet ones. then she became deputy prime minister and gave a standing ovation to someone just like her grandfather in parliament

[-] ped_xing@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago

There's no answer that isn't grim as fuck

You sure?

[-] D61@hexbear.net 43 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

pavlichenko

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pigmask-parodied

[-] corgiwithalaptop@hexbear.net 43 points 1 year ago

Yeah ok good

[-] usernamesaredifficul@hexbear.net 41 points 1 year ago

Damn Poland really are pissed off with Ukraine dumping grain on the european market

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[-] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 40 points 1 year ago

Get his ass

[-] ThomasMuentzner@hexbear.net 40 points 1 year ago

data-laughing

[-] barrbaric@hexbear.net 37 points 1 year ago

lets-fucking-go Into the damn pit

[-] ChaosMaterialist@hexbear.net 37 points 1 year ago

Poland watching TV seen-this-one

[-] ProxyTheAwesome@hexbear.net 35 points 1 year ago

wtf based poland

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